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The Mass Social Effect - CPA Cash $$$

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  1. indianbill007

    indianbill007 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Hey Guys,

    This is my second post on my CPA life, having experience of around half an year of Internet Marketing now and making decent figures daily on the internet from CPA alone, Here is my next method which I scaled and automated to make my success story.

    Not sure, If this should have been a Jr.VIP share but anyhow let the whole forum enjoy and learn from it.

    One thing I would like to admit here about Blackhat stuff.

    Blackhat = short lived, huge cash.
    White Hat = Long Term, low cash initially but adds up with time.

    A good marketer, should do an effective mix of both and as a personal suggestion I would suggest you to invest your blackhat earnings to your whitehat methods for a secure future and long term income. No blackhat method is long lived and you need to keep on being creative and innovate.

    Innovative thinking and thinking out of the box is key to black hat success.

    Well nuf said about Black Hat theory, coming to actual method now and how it helped me start my first full time IM business and quit my life as a cheap coder in one of those Freelancing sites.

    My method might not be entirely new and Am sure some Executive VIPs here might have some kind similar setups running if not 100% same.

    Now reading the title I think you must have got some basic idea that its based on social effect of the social networks.

    However this is not yet another how to guide to spam facebook.

    This is entirely new concept which uses no bots like face wizar.d or FFAP, is 100% anti spam AND makes tons of cash. Thanks to the social network effect.

    Although I use some of my custom coded bots to manage the accounts because of so many FRs and Fan Page stuff, it becomes difficult to manage everything.

    Ok step one is you dont need 100k facebook accounts for making cash with this method. I make 3 figure incomes daily with only 25 facebook accounts with 5000 friends, all added organically, Geo targeted manually by my staff.

    My method is more about Authoritative Action Effect, same as Google gives your page a PR, similarly for facebook profiles we can imagine a concept like Profile Authority. The more authoritative your profile is more probability is your chance to get people click on your links. Who the hell likes to talk to spam looking profiles filled with tons of links and offers covering the profiles every where. This is where more noobs fail in social marketing.

    This is how I did it for me, with certain variations you can make it work for you.

    1. Sign up for some good CPA companies. I recommend Peerfly, cpa lea.d, Adsendmedia. People here recommend Stronger Ads run by pofecker, however Iam yet to be its part :). Choose CPA's which allow social network traffic.

    2. Choose some good offers like FREE IPAD, IPHONE ones. They worked for me like hot. Conversions were 20% due to the social effect which I explain below.

    3. Create 25 genuine looking profiles (PVAs offcourse), or create only as many as you can manage by your workers. I made my staff do the account management . In India you can get a skilled staff for 400$ a month who can easily manage such stuff. You will just need to teach some 1-2 hrs initially and discuss with him the daily results, give him tips for improvement and tell him that he needs improvement, they are fast learners and one guy can manage multiple accounts per day.

    4. The theory is not to start spamming Facebook with multiple accounts and getting them banned but to build a social authority of your profiles. Even a bunch of social profiles with good social authority can make you tons to cash daily and this method lives on for much much longer than just blindly spamming FB.

    5. Once the accounts get created, start sending FRs to Targeted people. Since I promote US offers mostly I target US based people for friends. Now the Social Effect part starts from here. Once you have lets say 100 friends , post a wall post on one of your profiles with a CPA offer. I even did post a note because FB was blocking links too fast so posting a link to my note and asking them to see and comment on my note.

    Make the post look genuine like - "Hey , my Boss is offering new IPAD to all my friends. All you need is to spread word about his company. Alan my freind already got his."

    Where Alan is another of my profiles who comes ahead and gives a heads up saying yes he got it. Both of them have a lot of common friends.
    This can be done as a Note or a FAN Page.

    I once created an application IPAD-for-myfriends. It went viral with 50k people liking it in just 3 days. All initiated by Barbara and Allen, my 2 fake profiles :D of the 25 total.

    You will see that your profiles grow virally with FRs and tons of other invites organically. I used my bot ONLY to automated acceptance of FRs and Invites.Thats it nothing else. Every thing else is manual and is done by my workers.

    My workers have become so experts in managing these accounts now a days that I even allow them to chat with people on FB.

    Yup, REAL TIME LEADS :D , Getting converted like hot.

    Each worker converts around 10-20 leads daily just by chatting, sending them CPA offers and asking them to signup and then "hey, gotta go boss is calling.., seeya" stuff.

    Thats around 30$ daily per worker. This figure depends on how skilled your worker is, with experience and little teaching they master the act soon. I have some guys earning 100$ a day for me.

    6. Now comes the actual scaling part. Please remember that for success on any blackhat technique, you need mass scaling and automation. Although dont automate to the scale that it looks like spamming. Automation has great future, spamming has none. Google is the biggest proof of what automation can do for your business. Even the bots we use, I custom coded them with Facebook API to stay under radar. Minimal BH stuff.

    Second part of the scaling is scaling your man power. Once you see that your method is working you can add more man power.I started with 4 guys and today I run a very big team here. It takes a lot of time to manage and setup everything , but once you are done setting up, try automating every aspect of it. I even have my CPA earnings shown to be automatically pulled up by a cron and shown to me daily on my screen by a script I coded from the feeds of the CPA network. Although some new networks dont provide this but most of them do provide. Automation is the key to everything, automate your business as much as possible.

    7. One very important tip - Never tell your worker about your earnings or how much you are making daily. People are very smart and many will start copying you. Although its very difficult to survive seeing that you need to learn a lot before diving into CPA and making a living out of it, but people are greedy and often tend to take a step without thinking of the outcome. Just talk to him on exactly whats needed. He is your worker not your partner, dont explain him what the business is all about, just give him precise tasks and ask him to perform, give him incentives for good performance. Also occasionally login to profiles managed by him/her yourself and check how he is doing. This system takes a lot of time initially, but once the workers are trained you are sitting on a cash pile. As of now I dont manage all my people, I have super trained quality managers who check the quality of work the juniors are doing. Their work is only to maintain quality of accounts and asses work done by juniors. But beware again, these super trained people are very dangerous and if at all they find out what you are doing, they are the first ones to defect. Make sure you keep rotating their jobs, thats the best way to prevent defection as per my experience.

    So guys, try your luck out there. Social Networks will rule the world , its time we understand how they operate and cash in them to their true potential.

    Let me know how you did and do share your success story here.
     
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  2. xxf8xx

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    Thanks for the great post man. Must have taken a loooonngg time to write it haha
     
  3. Adkins

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    The basic mentality of indians is to get a job and work like slaves for someone and as long as that mentality is there,we can easily get many people for doing work like this.
    Also I have one more question-do you use direct link the CPA offer or do you setup a landing page or similar kind of blogs or blogspot to show the links to such CPA offers and what CPA company do you recommend working with which has 1st page email submit offers and has all variety of different CPA offers?
     
  4. indianbill007

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    Dude, dont talk like that for Indians man, Iam an Indian too. However I second your thought that they dont like taking risks, rather prefer to work in a safe job. I recommend Peerfly and CPA Lea.d.
     
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    Have a CPA Affiliate.
    Have FB PVA Accounts.

    Send friend requests To targeted Accounts.
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    Make a wall post with a CPA Offer on account A offering an incentive.
    > post link as a note if FB blocks incoming links.
    Make a wall post with account B confirming account As wall post.. account C etc.

    Your profiles will grow due to interaction & the incentive. Is this the idea here or am i leaving something out?
     
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    Thnx for the method, that's a good long post:)
    1 question: Since you add Geo-Targeted Friends and US based ones, I assume you use proxies, are they private and do you assign each FB account(or a certain nr. of them) a proxy and login with that IP all the time in those FB accounts?
    And how much do you pay your workers daily? Is it based on performance or a fixed rate?

    TIP: To know what your workers are doing, try installing a LEGIT & STEALTH keylogger on their systems without them knowing, which sends the data at the end of the day to your own PC so you can monitor any suspicious activities, so you don't have to login to profiles, meaning 100% automated!!!
     
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  7. indianbill007

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    lol yeah, poured my grey mind out.
     
  8. indianbill007

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    We use a known proxy rotator software for US proxies.I bought licenses for multiple PCs in bulk . We use one for one account strict no deviations. Accounts never get banned. Some features do get blocked if some new worker joins but then each worker has multiple accounts to manage so it works for me. I pay a fixed salary to them but I keep track of work very strictly and have implemented quality checks at multiple levels. Rather created a entire process for this now.
     
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  9. Adkins

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    I am indian too man.I tried this IM shit for about 7months and still I am collecting just cents.There is no real guide out there which explains some basic stuffs like landing page creation and its been like some time out there.I am thinking about working in a restaurant for some time so that I can atleast pay my rent and then start thinking about expanding myself online and then buying that restaurant to have more profits.I am seeing some people making over 100K a day and I still wonder how they do it.Its quite amazing how those people make that much online where starters like me struggle even after so many months just because of the lack of enough materials in the IM field on landing page creation.Can somebody provide me a product which explains that and I am ready to even pay 1000$ for that product alone provided its worth it.
    All I am seeing is some rehashed stuff on some basics like what is clickbank?
    What is CPA? etc
    WTH hell.Can somebody tell these Gurus to come up with the right products so that it can help the newbies out there.
    From what I learnt during my stint at IM is CONTENT is king and its all about the landing pages and we definitely want some products which teaches the same,ie how to create Quality landing pages using wordpress that SELLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Currently I made like just $1,589.95 with ************** and I know it sucks.Most of the days I am collecting cents.I know some people make that much even during 1hour.That is where I need to get,but I need some good product which I ready to buy provided it gives me the right information about website creation of landing pages.Please suggest me the same,Thanks!!!!!
     
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  10. indianbill007

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    Well my honest suggestion to you would be to read, read, and read and then act on it. Just reading wont be of any help. Half the people who fail in IM dont act, they just read and forget.

    Stay focussed, pickup one stuff and do it. If it does n't work twist it , all those gurus you sell you trash for $$$ , sell all out dated methods. BHW has enough FREE info for any noob to start off. I too was a noob 6 months back when I started IM.

    And I have never bought a single Guru product. Best of luck for your venture.

    I liked your buying the restaurant idea :D btw.
     
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    Well, I think you should stop buying shitty products from the so called gurus:rolleyes:
    Even if you really want them, 9 times out of 10 it will be in our downloads section so you save yourself a lot of money, that's why I love BHW:)

    Now, if you're willing to spend $1000 to buy a product which teaches you how to create landing pages or WP ones, why not outsource the work to a reputable and skillful designer which can produce an awesome and high converting LP??? Have you thought of this? It would probably cost you 200 at max(but you can find designers which want less than that)...

    Search here on BHW for such people, there are threads on the BST section willing to do all the designing work for you(and for cheap)!
    If you still want to learn it yourself, search the downloads section, I already have 3-4 e-books of the kind you want!
     
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    We MUST respect each other regardless what country or race.
     
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    Where did you get your indians from?
     
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    If you are in India, then there is no problem getting reasonably priced skilled workers for doing these kinda jobs.

    I run a full fledged BPO and hire people in Mass numbers these days. If am not using them in some months, then I rent them to my friends here in BHW. I can help you create your own team in India.If you are in India, its not a tough job, India is world's backoffice today.
     
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    See the Mass Effect. This page stays for months after it got created and never gets deleted plus one account runs 100's of such free offers with 5000 friends dying to signup on each account.
     
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    Nice method. I am using FB fan pages for something similar. Outsourcing is the key to making it work though
     
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    Thanx indianbill. Me too from india. But im struggling with online marketing due to my studies. Now thinking to start cpa offers with fb. Hoping to make some cash for future.
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    indianbill from which state r u dude tell me i will reach u.
     
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    Really helpful. I found some inspiration for me there! Great share!
     
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    A really nice thread and I must say a very inspiring success story. Guess what the CPA is the future of IM.
    I must agree with my fellow IM's in this thread that we all are Internet Marketers here trying to help each other regardless of culture and race.

    Best Regards :)
     
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