Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by Desertfox, Jan 18, 2012.
thats some nice detective works just there , nice share.
Indeed. I thought the same. Very good and detailed detective work. Im on Page 3 and still reading.
slow readers lol.
TBH given the size of their operation 2m a year income is probably wildly low.
Not slow. Busy wiht real life ATM
Yea i bet those Sophos estamiates are way too low. 5-> million or more are realistic.
They are talking about ~ 800 000 infected pcs/bots in year 2010...
Its 2012 now.
There are so many ways you can earn money with botnet larger than 1 000 000 ....
I bet some of those guys are here reading the forums sometimes
Just 4 fun.
Nice share... and yeah 2 million per year is low for them...
I've closed that investigation after page 2... I don't say it's bad but the gang is really fuqin stupid.
Footprints everywhere !!! They don't know how to hide.
In the meantime many profiles went private.
But from reading the NYC News Article & other Websites im getting the feeling they dont really want to hide their footprints...
Noone can touch them, legally
Interesting how little footprints add up, you can work out a reasonably good strategy for avoiding this by reading the article like a manual.
xx 21,790 Facebook Accounts
-- Total friends count: 935,000/Accounts with friends: 3105
xx 350,854 Total Blogger Accounts
xx 522,633 Total Google Accounts
xx 4,842 Google Reader Accounts
xx 4,044 100mb Accounts
this is insane
That's not insane, that's possible. Also can you give me some arguments why they can't get touched (legally)? I'm somehow curious. Anyway... it's obivous these guys have some high traffic porn websites and their are big in this industry.
zen19: these are BIG mistakes. Anyway I've just scanned the article, nothing new there.
well is all in the article.
Maybe you should read it instead ot just "scan/overflow it"?
In a nutshell: FBI is just watching. Cant do shit cause its out of their jurisdiction.
And Russia doesnt give a ****. I wouldnt either if i were russia and some guys are getting millions and millions and PAY TAXES...
Lol they call that a net?
Serious disinformation guys.
Most of these so called security blogs talk out their arses.
Yep, i was just thinking the same thing... these guys really didn't put much effort into remaining anonymous
I was about to say that.
Going legit with IM one can make 2 mil, easily.
These crooks are lazy too.... hahahaha
i've gone thru the materials and the pdf references. wow these guys really kick a$#. when most of us have just a couple of blackhat tools, these guys develop several custom tools that work seamlessly to come up with a well-oiled blackest of the blackhat system. my mind is swirling now. i am thinking of replicating their system sans malware. twist their system and you can have your own ultimate spam system.
Ive got the same idea.
But i always get stuck on the "team up with 1-2 partners" point.
These days trustworthy partners are rare...
And those guys know each other in real life.
Travel with their families etc...
'' leaving the avstats / webanalizer folders unprotected '' L O L ! nothing more to say !
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