The feels when you start getting legit views

blackhatsami · Feb 17, 2016

Those feels when you start getting legit views 100% white hat. I say this because with recent youtube changes, white hat marketing seems the only way to actually make a steady reliable income. Creating quality content and building a channel, I would say, is the best and probably only alternative.

Good riddance to buying views and mass uploading.

A new age is upon us.

sethkimball · Feb 17, 2016

in B4 tons of people start posting how much success they're having with Blackhat+Youtube

blackhatsami · Feb 17, 2016

sethkimball said:
in B4 tons of people start posting how much success they're having with Blackhat+Youtube

No doubt that people are still making money from blackhat. However, the gains are minimal now. I'm sure others can attest to this.

sethkimball · Feb 17, 2016

blackhatsami said:
No doubt that people are still making money from blackhat. However, the gains are minimal now. I'm sure others can attest to this.

trying to decide whether to let this thread be (aka reduce competition), or refute with facts.

JazzJazzy · Feb 17, 2016

why not do both?

blackhatsami · Feb 17, 2016

sethkimball said:
trying to decide whether to let this thread be (aka reduce competition), or refute with facts.

Well I may be ignorant to the blackhat ways of youtube that are still out there. The methods I do know of are pretty much dead. So I have to resort to whitehat.

jordanmaggs7 · Feb 18, 2016

really interested in this.. pm'ed you mate

Windmill · Feb 18, 2016

JazzJazzy said:
why not do both?

Because your black hat will get your white hat banned?

I only do 100% white hat YouTube SEO and it is genuinely quite glorious. I'm so happy to leave the BH world behind. I enjoy reading about it and discussing it. But I have zero intention of going back to the BH side. Being 100% WH and not having to worry about updates or anything is such a relief.

mapledownloader · Feb 20, 2016

blackhatsami said:
Those feels when you start getting legit views 100% white hat. I say this because with recent youtube changes, white hat marketing seems the only way to actually make a steady reliable income. Creating quality content and building a channel, I would say, is the best and probably only alternative.

Good riddance to buying views and mass uploading.

A new age is upon us.

What recent youtube changes? And what do you mean? Also does buying high retention views actually help a video get more popular growth for real views?

soulcollector · Feb 20, 2016

It's just getting tougher to find a view provider that actually does provide high quality YouTube views. Most providers around here sell low quality easily detectable fake views, and that is why they are getting deleted on YouTube naturally. It comes down to either having ips usable only for your videos or finding a good supplier that won't send just any views to your videos, but rather make sure that your videos are only getting maximum quality for maximum effect.

Sristy · Feb 20, 2016

jordanmaggs7 said:
really interested in this.. pm'ed you mate

WTF, did you even read what this thread is about or just increasing post count.

OP, it is all about innovating, black hat / white hat / no hat.

blackcat666 · Feb 20, 2016

whats b4 ? another site ?

sethkimball · Feb 22, 2016

blackcat666 said:
whats b4 ? another site ?

no, in b4 is a forum idiom that means "I'm replying in this thread just to get my comment in before tons of people start posting all their issues with this thread"

its a joke

ChanzGrande · Feb 22, 2016

Love it. I'm getting there too. BH is awesome for that first real taste of success, but when the rug gets pulled - which it almost always does - it truly sucks. Navigating towards more stable and residual traffic streams, sources, and models is the logical evolution of many of us.

Congrats on reaching that new level Windmill.

Bleght · Mar 2, 2016

WH success is always pleasant and rewarding, I'm sure. But even if one thinks that they are doing 100% WH SEO, there is a slight chance that their properties will suffer in unfavorable updates. We are all fighting a black box and we never know what will happen in the future. But this is what makes it fun, right?

darkreaction · Mar 3, 2016

There is WH and then there is, grey hat.

socialmediapro · Mar 3, 2016

One question for you guys? Do you consider buying views BH? Cause we all know that especially new channels can not be built up without buying some views. I mean it's a fact that you can't rank a video without buying views cause how would you outrank video with 100k+ views if your video has zero haha

So when you say you are WH does it means you are like completely 100% WH without any exception?

qkhoi027 · Mar 4, 2016

I'm also new to youtube, legit view is something that I want but it's difficult at beginning

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