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The Best Spinner -- Is it dying?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by srb888, Nov 9, 2010.

  1. srb888

    srb888 Elite Member

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    I have been experiencing major problems with the best spinner since last many days. It stops working, is unable to spin, etc. I have stopped using firewall and proxy (not a brainy way to find solutions, just to check if TBS works properly) as the TBS maker and his sidekick insists, but the TBS keeps hanging/stops working. It was working many days ago, but since the last automated upgrade (or the one before that) took place the once-top-quality software has been now completely ruined.

    The forum belonging to TBS has no mention of the right solutions and even the support team is unable to rectify these problems. If you are using TBS, are you also facing these problems? The software seemed too good to be true, and it's proving now that it simply wasn't a great sturdy and stable software for the long run.

    I am very disappointed and am getting very angry because the maker isn't giving any solutions. I feel that the latest upgrade has many bugs, and alas, we cannot even revert to the older version.

    So anyone wishing to purchase TBS should check first about these problems and then only should spend their money on it, IMHO.
     
  2. craigslistguy

    craigslistguy Regular Member

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    Should have gotten spinnerchief right off the bat.

    Then you wouldnt be making threads like this :D
     
  3. srb888

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    I also have the SpinnerChief, but this one seemed too advanced and of course had bought it much earlier.

    And no harm in making "such thread". I usually don't make meaningless threads, for your information. Save your expert comment for other threads...
     
  4. craigslistguy

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    hmm interesting....

    Anyway just stick with spinner chief and combine it with nuke or scrape or w/e your using and blast that unique content every which way.....

    I like that one article can create so many unique articles all for free. Anything to keep overhead down, right.
     
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  5. srb888

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    Yeh, thanks anyway. But that doesn't solve the problem/s created by TBS. Hope the creator of TBS uses his production skills less and serves his customers better.
     
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    Ya agreed. Its almost like he is running a legal scam....

    sad to think people waste such money on things...
     
  7. srb888

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    To be honest, TBS was extremely good while it worked, but now it's creating problems and the worse part is, Jon (its creator) doesn't seem to be offering swift solutions. Why doesn't he allow the customers to revert back to the working versions?

    So any one thinking of buying it now, please check it thoroughly (not many seem to be affected by these particular issues, but be careful and be prepared for such eventualities.)

    The aim of creating this thread is to make our members aware that TBS can really be a prick in the a$$... may be the next version takes care of these problems.

    P.S.:

    While it worked, it gave me real value for the money I paid for it (so I can't say I wasted my money), but a really great application like this should have some better options like reverting to earlier version if needed, and TBS has no such options. So if it fails for any reason and has literally no options like the one mentioned above, then the software has a lot to travel in terms of becoming a truly great one as it seemed to be (when it was doing its job). Bought it about 7 months back, and it worked quite efficiently until about a few days ago...







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  8. craigslistguy

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    lets hope he isnt as shady as this "hopefully" momentary lapse of judgement on Jon's part doesnt affect his overall business path....

    and he does listen to the people and provide an efficient piece of software, and a solution.
     
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    Just wondering if there has been an update on it's function. I'm using SpinnerChief now.. has any one used both and feel TBS is better.

    Since I have no comparison, not sure if TBS has a better thesaurus.
     
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    i feel you pain, i have emailed them many times with no replies. money to the trash
     
  11. wahidpolin

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    TBS is working fine for me
     
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    I've owned TBS for 4 months now and it's always been slow and prone to crashing.

    However, the outputs are great and I don't think you will be able to find a better synonym library out there.

    The only problem is with stability and bugs. It's annoying but I believe the program is still worthwhile.
     
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  13. hireganesh

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    TBS is like a pain in as*. I'm also fed up of it now. Crashing like hell.
     
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    Ive never had any major problems with it. Still use it a couple times a week.
    It does hang slightly on occassion, but never completely locks up nor crashes.
     
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    no problems on mt side. offcourse if you are using the new beta then no surprise if you face problems
     
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    That's what the issue must be because my TBS is working great and I couldn't do without it.

    Bulibasa. :D
     
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    Well please be assured - it doesn't.
     
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    You are forced to use the version that JL comes out with, and there are ABSOLUTELY NO options for you. That's my point.

    TBS is filled with bugs now and JL is constantly upgrading it with new functions without cleaning up those (especially the most crucial of those) bugs.

    P.S.: See, just now I was using TBS to work upon one of my own articles (trying to make it slightly different from that earlier one), and that program bombed. Same thing happened yesterday too. So I consulted one expert programmer last night. We together checked JL's article here >>>

    Code:
    http://www.jonathanleger.com/but-its-got-to-be-perfect/
    We were shocked (I was shocked earlier too when I had first read it :), but this was a "shock" another time around because that articles will give renewed shocks every time), where he states that he works only 20 hours a week!!! My God, he also gives reasons for the way he works (and those are the exact reasons why the TBS is failing and probably dying now). He fails to understand the importance of Customer Satisfaction! In that article, he fails to mention that he isn't even giving an option to his customers to work with any earlier version which worked! Try and put a comment about any "negative" relevant fact (about his actual program and your negative experience with it), and your comment would most certainly get deleted quickly!

    I am not against the fact that he gives more features, more options, but this can be done in a parallel way too. That is, without hurting the main program which is being used by his numerous customers worldwide. The earlier versions worked without flaws, but since last few weeks, TBS has suffered and because of that the customer have suffered too. Only if JL had given an option to revert back to a version that the customers had no complaints, then all his efforts of putting in new features would have been really helpful to TBS and his/its customers. But JL insists on his own views and has tried to "convince" the world about how his way is "special" through the above link. O.K. JL, you may be right in your own way, but why aren't you focusing on the fact that your method has been and is putting your customers in plenty of troubles lately. Give them the option to use a previous version, that all we need.

    I will not say here which software is good or bad, but I am sad that his tactics have put my friend's money and my work in great difficulties (due to a now-flawed TBS). Definitely, TBS is dying and while it is dying, JL is beautifying it more!

    GUI concepts are lot bigger things to consider in these days. I know about it because I have the experience of working in the field before even Windows was born. I have worked throughout since those times and had been a programmer/analyst/consultant in the field of client-server architecture where GUI is definitely one of the major aspects. Another major aspect is the removal of existing bugs... there are more things to look for and through this process only the Customer Satisfaction is achieved.

    This is exactly where he fails. He doesn't understand that bugs can seriously make things difficult, and will be lot more difficult to solve if not corrected immediately (when they are found out), and for those reasons, the versions need to be sent through lots of tests -- not make it the only version for everyone to use without any other choices. This is a difficult concept to digest, but working 20 hours a week (not just on TBS but on lots of other things too), and giving plenty of reason for that isn't going to make his program any healthier. This also proves that he won't be able to assure his customers that he will try and remove all those bugs.

    Go to his forums and read all those complaints yourselves. Mind you, he has also deleted a lot of genuine complaints and I have the proof of it. So why does he do that? I am ready to post those proofs too, or give them to proper authorities.

    P.S.: The major success of TBS lies in the fact that all his customers have helped created all those great synonyms (which is also the soul of TBS, IMHO), and now he isn't giving justice to all their major complaints. And so, when TBS "dies", that great work done in this context by his customers cannot be recreated or salvaged.
     
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    Sorry for the back-to-back post, but I would still request JL to give me and all his customers the access to an earlier version of TBS which really worked without all the present flaws. This is a heartfelt request to him. I put it here on this great forum because a similar request on his forum was (also) deleted by him or his team. That's it.

    HTH all those who use TBS in a major way.
     
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    About your PM (yahoo) I can send pms no 15 post pm me with our id so we can talk.
     
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