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The best offer becomes the worst ?

Discussion in 'CPA' started by markomarkogame, Sep 8, 2011.

  1. markomarkogame

    markomarkogame Power Member

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    So on Maxbounty i was using this one offer that would get me 5-10 leads per day and now i get even more traffic but 0 leads ! Whats up with that Maxbounty ? Its about Modern Warfare 3 (one field)
     
  2. wickedguy

    wickedguy Supreme Member

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    Are you certain it is real humans visiting and not bots ? :D

    Just sayin bro
     
  3. markomarkogame

    markomarkogame Power Member

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    Yes i am all google traffic 2k google trafic i changed the offer and earned 3 dollars already in 10 minutes
     
  4. chipmunk951

    chipmunk951 Senior Member

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    You're getting shaved by performance.

    When you first get started with the offer, the advertiser doesn't know how good your traffic quality is so on the good networks, they will pretty much accept all your leads to begin with, meaning that when someone enters their email it will convert and you will get the $ for that lead.

    However after the advertiser determines your traffic quality [usually a day or two or longer, depends] they'll adjust your EPC to a level where they can still make a profit by your traffic.

    You are getting less because your lead quality is not as good as the advertiser wants, but they are still willing to accept it by paying at a lower rate. If the lead quality is pure shit that's when they take you off the offer. If you have a few OK leads but a lot of bad ones, they'll adjust the EPC down to a point where they are still making a small profit.

    If you change your offer to another advertiser's offer, the same thing will happen. For a short time every lead will be a conversion and then they will adjust the EPC, so the correct thing to do is not try every offer until you've gained bad EPC's all around, but adjust your site/landing page/sales pitch to get quality leads that make the advertiser happy.

    Hope that makes sense.
     
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  5. markomarkogame

    markomarkogame Power Member

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    It does thank you now i get it. I will use another offer and see the results, if i get scrubed there also i will use incentive offers from now on
     
  6. homenet

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    There could be some shaving / scrubbing going on. If your leads aren't backing out on the advertisers end they might be shaving. This is very common with one field submits.
     
  7. chipmunk951

    chipmunk951 Senior Member

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    Scrubbed =/= Shaving. Scrubbed is when the person that did the offer is already on their list so they do not need that lead.

    You will get shaved by performance on incentive offers too. Sometimes it has to do with offer selection ( i.e selecting an offer more related to your niche is more interesting than a non-related one ) but most of the time, it has to do with your pre-sell to the offer.

    Basically, force them to past the first page and the advertiser will be happy :pirate:
     
  8. markomarkogame

    markomarkogame Power Member

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    i dont get the bolded one
     
  9. cool0403

    cool0403 BANNED BANNED

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    He is saying basically make them/ incent them/ threathen them(lol joking)/ convince them to fill the second page of the email submit , which is usually the fields that have the name, address, city, state, phone number, country etc.

    The first page is the simple email submit where you have the landing page and the email submit field, if your traffic is only filling out 1st page submits you will get shaved badly since an email is not useful to the advertiser as the 2nd page, then again same goes for all your leads being 2nd page but shitty leads.
     
  10. markomarkogame

    markomarkogame Power Member

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    Oh ok ;) If i have more problems i will be using TWO PAGE offers ;)
     
  11. chipmunk951

    chipmunk951 Senior Member

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    Same concept though. if it's two-page offers they will want to see some leads go past the second page :)
     
  12. own007

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    Some of the email offers i start with 0.70 $ and after 2 days it become 0.10 or less. Do you think that Nowdays Downloads and dating offers are more safe then email submit?