The Algorithms of the Algorithm [TikTok]

Putt

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I got asked by @ReverseAndCode to share some info I have about the TikTok algorithm and their plans for the future. I'm going to use this thread as an ongoing opportunity to share interesting pieces of information as I see fit.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask and I'll make sure to find out the answer.

1. User Interest Vector Space Modelling
As we expected, TikTom categorizes both users and creators with 'tags' that are related to interests. I'm 99% sure that these line up with the 20 or so content tags that appear in the Creator Marketplace. Rather than using a 100% dynamic system to pick FYP content, the algorithm only searches within the scope of your 'tags'. This is how FYPs can be so different and it can be difficult to discover new types of content if you already 'trained' your FYP.

Equally, this will likely make niche shifts difficult as if you start uploading a different type of content, your reach will be pushed towards a bad audience. Something to be wary of if you're buying accounts. If you buy a sports account and start publishing gaming content, rather

2. Positive Reinforcement Weighting
The order of 'significance' for engagements (high to low) is Share, Comment, Like, Viewtime.

3. Device Data Capturing
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4. Cross Domain Learning

The algorithm is set up to predict behaviour based on similar people. If you like 'A' and 99% of people who like 'A', like 'B', it will assume you also like 'B'. It also does this cross-domain. What this means is the algorithm will identify that people who like Shawn Mendes are more likely to enjoy football over baseball or whatever.

5. Pre-Publication Content Scoring
This tech was researched for the purpose of their ad platform but it is likely used or soon to be used by the main platforn. It describes machine learning algorithms that can identify the quality of a piece of content without having to show it to users to collect data. This could easily be one of the reasons behind 0 views posts. Imagine Google assigning ads a quality score instantly after creation of ad copy.

Other Stuff
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More analysis + research to come...
 
Absolutely great, thank you! :)

Edit: I just took a screenshot, in case TikTok will ask you to remove it.
 
Thread bookmarked and screenshots taken.

Thank you for the information.
 
I have to wait 28 more days to be able to upgrade to BHW Jr. VIP.

Then I'll be allowed to post some TikTok app traffic insights here (one of my posts has been removed already).
 
if someone really understand those information point by point will make a fortune in the right field
 
So how many TikTok accounts would you reccomend per 1 device? If I reinstall TikTok can I set up more accounts or it will hurt my accounts credibility? If yes, what should I change on my phone to be considered as a new one?
 
So how many TikTok accounts would you reccomend per 1 device? If I reinstall TikTok can I set up more accounts or it will hurt my accounts credibility? If yes, what should I change on my phone to be considered as a new one?

Have a look at this answer and the following:

https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/multiple-tiktok-accounts-new-device-vs-new-sim.1290173/post-13904907
 
So how many TikTok accounts would you reccomend per 1 device? If I reinstall TikTok can I set up more accounts or it will hurt my accounts credibility?
Reinstalling will make no difference. TikTok fingerprints your device using IMEI, MAC address, the MAC address of your WIFI access point, and plenty of other details. Depending on what you're using the accounts for will affect the number. I often log in and out of 20-30 of my clients' accounts from my phone but we do no automation.

If you're botting, much much less but I don't know exactly.
 
Reinstalling will make no difference. TikTok fingerprints your device using IMEI, MAC address, the MAC address of your WIFI access point, and plenty of other details. Depending on what you're using the accounts for will affect the number. I often log in and out of 20-30 of my clients' accounts from my phone but we do no automation.

If you're botting, much much less but I don't know exactly.
Thanks, I have like 4 niche accounts and I don't use bots nor any other type of automation, so you think it doesn't matter if I get the 5th account on the same device? I was thinking about getting new phone for that, however these 4 already existing accounts aren't shadowbanned, they get pretty good results.
 
Thanks, I have like 4 niche accounts and I don't use bots nor any other type of automation, so you think it doesn't matter if I get the 5th account on the same device? I was thinking about getting new phone for that, however these 4 already existing accounts aren't shadowbanned, they get pretty good results.
I would say it's okay but @ReverseAndCode probably can answer this better?
 
I would say it's okay but @ReverseAndCode probably can answer this better?

:)

The game could change at any time - against you @manogoyt - and a device ban may follow. TikTok changed many things recently, a famous public API service doesn't work anymore, so they may monitor your accounts already.

If you don't want to lose your earnings of the 4 accounts, you should at least buy another cheap phone to start with the 5th account. Although I still recommend iPhones for TikTok, to avoid the transmission of device data (link above).
 
This is what tiktok collect

  • Geolocation data, including: longitude, latitude, and time zone
  • Device information, including: Android ID, International Mobile Equipment Identity (IMEI), Address Book Access, Device carrier region, Device region, Device type, Device OS version, Device language, Device connection type, and Mobile network code
  • App information, including: App name
 
thanks for this valuable information. appreciated what you have done for all of us man!
 
Thanks, I have like 4 niche accounts and I don't use bots nor any other type of automation, so you think it doesn't matter if I get the 5th account on the same device? I was thinking about getting new phone for that, however these 4 already existing accounts aren't shadowbanned, they get pretty good results.
Great. What type of content do you publishing for each niche?

Content or Tags are matter. I think both are important for success.
 
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