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Testing child method and account creation

Discussion in 'My Journey Discussions' started by MarkWilson, Feb 23, 2019.

  1. MarkWilson

    MarkWilson Regular Member

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    Hello dudes
    I recently interrupted my follow/unfollow service which was a pretty big part of my monthly income.
    This because I'm struggling too with the new instagram updates and the accounts don't grow enough these days. So I want to test this "child method" everyone is talking about, to see if it really works or not.

    I will start with just 1 account to check, will share here my results and tips
    Today I created an account, what I used:
    - my own 4g proxies
    - memu android emulator (you can use any other but I've found this is the most easy to setup proxies)
    - mobile numbers from getsmscode
    - pictures taken from vk

    I created the account through browser (not through app).
    I didn't change the hash of the pictures (there's no specific reason I just forgot that)
    The account is female, with 10-15 photo uploaded on it (of course a cute girl).
    I will put in bio something like "follow xxx and I will write you in chat! ;)"
    The account I've put in bio has nothing to do with the girl account, this in order to see if ANY account can grow or not.
    I bought 1000 followers and 100-300 likes for each pic of my child account, in order to make it look legit.

    I will follow 350 users per day + likes and unfollow 350 the second part of the day.
    I won't do any slow warm up, cause if I want to resell this service I need to be able to start immediately at full speed. If I have to warm up the accounts for 2-4 weeks it would be pointless.

    The target I've chosen is a local rapper that has mostly young people who follow. I think this will boost follow %.

    Lets see what happens, if the accounts get banned or how many followers arrive per day with only 1 account doing follow/unfollow. Will wait some days
    If you have any suggestion or question just tell me!
     
  2. IG Professor

    IG Professor Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    It sounds like you are on the right track. This thread should be moved to the journey section. I will follow up to see how things are going and see if I can asist.
    Goodluck :)
     
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    i just started my smma (follow/unfollow service) im hoping it goes well. GG i will be watching your thread!
     
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  4. MarkWilson

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    DAY 2:
    Account is still active, no PV received or anything.
    Yesterday the profile followed 130 users, so still very soon to think about results.
    But something moved: got 5 followers in total on the profile I want to grow.
    That's not bad I think, but I want to keep a constant 15-20/day.
    This because with 1 proxy I will try to manage 4-5 child accounts, so if each of them brings 15-20 followers per day it would be a good number. Anything below will be considered failure, as proxy cost is not negligible.

    Let's see!
     
  5. Arghs

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    Looks good, but aren't that too many follows/day for a new account?
     
  6. MarkWilson

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    F/U is so bad these days. I got problems even with 4g proxies, the growth was very slow. Maybe by using only 1-2 account per proxy it would get better, but as they cost me a lot monthly I cannot manage so few accounts per proxy.

    They probably are. But as I said: if I want to make this as service for my customers, I have to go full speed from the beginning. They cannot wait for warm up and things like that. Consider I am using super clean mobile proxies, so my hope is that with those I can push a bit the limits. Only time will tell, for now I didn't have any problem
     
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  7. SiNk0

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    nice idea and i think that will bring success to you, 1 question how do you manage this accounts? jarvee?
     
  8. MarkWilson

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    I use gram multitool but jarvee or followliker will be the same
     
  9. SiNk0

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    and how do you set your proxies? so you need proxies which are near to your living place? and after setting up the gramtool, do you visit the/ login to the accounts with the instagram app to check for insights for interest, or is it too risky because of the IPs?
     
  10. MarkWilson

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    I use same location for creating and managing.
    After creating account I profile it with GMT (profile pic, posts etc).
     
  11. MarkWilson

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    I've just noticed that my "scrape only females" filter was on instead of the opposite, fixed it now should bring much more followbacks (I hope) as it interacts with males only
     
  12. MarkWilson

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    I just realized I can completely remove the unfollow process: once I hit 7500 followings I will just delete the account and make some others. This is actually very useful because you stress the account less and you keep following everyday without unfollowing
     
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    DAY 2
    Not much to report today, got hit with phone verification after 439 successfull follow+likes, just solved that quickly with getsmscode and set the account back following
    No new followers on growth profile
     
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    I suggest you to keep the account. Larger accounts attract more followers.
     
  15. SiNk0

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    so how is it going?
     
  16. MarkWilson

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    Getting 5-7 new followers per day with 1 child account, my vps provider just wiped my vps by mistake and nothing moving now (DON'T ORDER FROM ALPHARACKS, THAT VPS PROVIDER IS NOT RELIABLE).
    The bad news are that I think you need at least 100-200 accounts running at the same time to see good results. It is not possible to do it only with 5-10 profiles.
    The good news are that the child account is still active and I got no problems after the first phone verification. This forces me to test account creation on a larger scale.
    Child method (from what I've seen) IS NOT an efficient way to grow the account. It could be, but you need A LOT of accounts, which will raise the cost a lot.
     
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    You get 5-7 Follower from 1 child and consider that not good? That would make a solid 500-700 followers a day with 100 accounts. I mean i don't know your proxy costs but that seems like some good results
     
  18. Digital Finger

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    That's right you are expecting on average around 50 followers per child account to your main (per month)

    Providing the average cost to run a child account per month is: $1.50 (let's say incl: proxy, vps and bot)

    You are paying around $0.03 for each highly targeted user (although not bad) - Depending on your conversion rate this makes it worth it or not.

    Let's say your conversion rate is 3% just like the average e-com and a CTR of 15% (These stats are based only on Unique visits and not reoccurring).

    That's $0.2 per user clicking to your link and $6.60 conversion cost.

    That's is of course subjective to your CTR's, targeting etc,etc. But if we work on industries average.

    That's the cost for the average e-com, but for CPA I'm sure it's very different.
     
  19. MarkWilson

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    Proxy costs me around 8€ per month and I think I can manage max 3 accounts with it. in these 8€ monthly I am not putting the vps cost and the proxy setup cost, just the monthly cost to keep up the proxies.
    Considering these results with 3 accounts you do max 15-25 followers per day.
    That means 600 followers per month. Let's say it will require 2 months for 1k followers. Proxy cost will be 16€.
    I sell 1k targeted followers for 30-50$ currently.
    COnsidering the effort you need to create, verify and set all the accounts, I will have a really small profit and will need a lot of time.
    I mean, it's not a bad method but I cannot sell a service that bases only on that. Work will be huge and profit very low.
    I prefer to start testing account creation on a larger scale but for different projects (not child method)

    To run these kind of 4g proxies cost is far from 1.5$ per account, that cost is achivable only with datacenter proxies
    I don't think you will be able to run consistently hundreds of accounts created through these cheap proxies
     
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  20. Digital Finger

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    In charge of spoofing footprints.
    That's the only isssue however -

    4G proxies have a huge range of IP's and bare in mind that there are many people using mobile connection to use Instagram so your accounts are just one of thousands.

    But you can only run let's say a maximum of 3-5 accounts per IP at one time - and setting up rotations is a nightmare.

    The only other alternative to this is to create the accounts using the 4G proxy, then after warming them up switch to a Data center proxy.

    However, setting this setup is a hassle, it's something I am currently working on, each account get's 30 mins of browsing, liking, commenting per day. I am rotating these and slowly increasing the actions per day.

    Then I merge them to a cheap proxy and they seem to be working fine so far - currently in the testing phase.