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Technology deprived people

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by marusia, Nov 26, 2011.

  1. marusia

    marusia Senior Member

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    This just came out of my Grandma's mouth:

    (watching a commercial for a Kindle) "Mary, where do you go to upload the books, the library?"

    other gems from my family:

    grandma had me make her an email account. I go over and she's on the phone. "my email address is xxxxxx@yahoo.com and my password is Joseph. That's j-o-s-e-p-h." me-grandma, why the hell did you just give out your password? Grandma-because they need it to deposit it into my account!

    Dad- "come over and bring your laptop, your modem, and your router. We need to use the Internet." (they have no connection and asked me this at least 3 times.)

    sister- "yeah, I've heard of those facebook face pages, but I've never seen one."

    I literally have pages and pages of these things my family say. Anyone else?
     
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  2. AtmoSphEre

    AtmoSphEre Newbie

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    Step Dad - "You get viruses from watching youtube videos. Its downloading stuff. "

    LOL. Idiot.
     
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  3. toughtrasher

    toughtrasher Senior Member

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    LOL. This thread = hilarious.

    An old friend had someone hack his TPPC account (Anyone remember this Pokemon site?) - "Dude, this guy's going to give me 6 shiny legends for my account. All I had to do was give him my password and email and password for my email. :D"
    Me - "HAH You just got haxxed"
     
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  4. sirgold

    sirgold Supreme Member

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    This is highly debatable, trust me. ;)
     
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  5. W1zdom

    W1zdom Newbie

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    "my email address is ___________ and my password is Joseph. That's j-o-s-e-p-h."
    Hahahaha
     
  6. AtmoSphEre

    AtmoSphEre Newbie

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    But he thinks watching a youtube video is "downloading" and your going to get a virus from it. But then again people who aren't very up to date with teh internets thinks everything is either a virus or a scam.
     
  7. sirgold

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    Don't wanna be a bitch or sound tedious but for the sake of completeness it's technically *exactly* what happens when you "stream" a video. And if the player (whatever technology) has some sort of *exploitable* flaw you might get compromised even with a video. So who says that is not to far off from saying the truth, even if he doesn't know that and probably takes a funny path in his reasoning to get there...

    It's not much different from any other format that needs to be "parsed" by some binary that writes some memory, somehow... I could stay here 2 days delving into it and potential methods to achieve that, but hey... it's all for the lulz here not a security seminar :D
     
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  8. jazzc

    jazzc Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    Theoretically yes, practically no. If you remember, there was the old microsoft JPEG exploit (buffer overflow). You could get hacked just by visiting any website that had a malicious jpeg image.

    That 's so rare that if you are actually afraid of such situations you need to stop using the internet.

    To get compromised via youtube, there are 3 possible ways
    • an exploit on a decoder + malicious video
    • youtube partnering with PPI companies :D
    • youtube getting hacked and a spreader installed
    None is likely.
     
  9. sirgold

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    Buffer overflows are hardly the only method you can use to exploit such a potential flaw and, no, it's not *that* unlikely by any means. If you have any experience programming parsers for video codecs (the specific MS's jpg example is not enough to prove anything, I'm afraid.. Let alone how often these vulnerabilities do present themselves..) you might be aware of it, but just a quick look at any of the opensource engines will yield very interesting results should you bother having a look ;)

    Code:
    http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&q=mplayer+heap+overflow
    http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&q=mplayer+buffer+overflow
    
    Now, in the opensource world there's an entire community eager to divulge bugs in order to be fixed, on proprietary technology... Well you do the math. Nobody that knows how to make $ online in his right mind will ever be willing to do the same. Nuff said. :)
     
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  10. BENNY8877

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    When my Dad goes on vacation he will ask me to go to his house so that I can check his email from his computer. I keep telling him that he can use it anywhere that he can use the Internet, but I still get the call a few times a year.
     
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    hehe, that made me laugh...all I've got to say is

    But we shouldn't laugh too much at these techno howlers, afterall, its not their fault they were born before the digital revolution...but still, a little giggle wont hurt ;)

    And I like how this thread went from funny to being a Symantec conference in about 5 second lol...you never can tell how a thread will end up :p

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