Teaching people to programme

If I were to set up a business on BHW to teach people to program for $100 a week/PP at about an hour a day. Would anybody be interested in applying for this?

It would take me about 3-4 weeks to teach you java or python. I will be setting "coursework" that you will get marked on and you would be learning a lot of interesting coding techniques if you did join up.

Would this be worth the effort to set up?

Thanks

Elliott

Nobody would be interested then?

Elliott1992 said:

Nobody would be interested then?

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I doubt it. There are plenty of free tutorials available on the net and the marks are worthless unless from an credited organisation.
I would just download some Lynda.com stuff from a wares site and keep at it
until I got it right.
That's if you got that type of service approved in the first place.

Free tutorials all over the internet.. Why would someone pay $100 for an hour a day? Spend as long as you want following detailed guides for as many hours as you like for FREE.

If you think you can actually code well from the tutorials over the internet and have the motivation to do it then you're delusional. Why would anybody go to university, high school, lower school if everything is already on the internet?? Bit of a silly thing to say really...

I don't think it would go over too well on BHW, but you could rake in some easy money by doing some offline classes. You could do month long courses to help people who are looking for ways to make extra money from home.

You might get some discouraging posts here, but don't let that stop you. Just think if you held a class with 10 people in it. You could do everything by webinar, and have your sessions 2 or 3 times a week for an hour or two. Charge $50 per head per week, and you're making an easy $2k per month.

Education seems to be a hot commodity right now, and at least you'd be offering something useful. You could even teach your students how to find freelance jobs online so they can put their new skills to use immediately and start making money for themselves. Considering the job market, I'm sure that a lot of people would be interested, especially if all you need is a laptop and an internet connection.

I hope it works out for you, and if it does, you could turn it into a WSO (chuckles) and make even more cash! You know how the WaFo crew loves those turn-key money makers...

~blackhatdiva~

I'd maybe be interested but not at $100/week. Seems a lot when I could do home courses with recognised qualifications for less.

Cheers

How much would you suggest? And @blackhatdiva thanks for your suggestion, sounds like a good idea to me!! Might set it up for offline instead!

Elliott1992 said:

If you think you can actually code well from the tutorials over the internet and have the motivation to do it then you're delusional. Why would anybody go to university, high school, lower school if everything is already on the internet?? Bit of a silly thing to say really...

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Because you get an accredited qualification which you need for a nine to five.
Us entrepreneurs need nothing of the sort. It's actually you that is delusional.
You may be better posting free tutorials in the spirit of BHW.
What qualifications do you hold as a programming tutor to command that price?
What is the curriculum of your course?

If I got the money I might be interested

The only way to know for sure is to try it. Maybe not here, but I'm sure on other sites people would be interested. You could try tutoring people. Or, take what information you would be providing people and create your own book and try selling that. You could even throw in your own personal assistance as a bonus.

http://www.w3schools.com/js/default.asp I have a demonoid account with plenty of Lynda.com tuts. There was this website that lets people put tutorials on the internet that is being used by a school that works much better to teach kids than the traditional ways.We haven't even converted to the metric system yet.The internet has nothing useful to teach us when this forum is here?

I didn't say that the internet has nothing to offer. Just I know being taught by someone is much better and is much more useful than anything that the internet can offer you. Look at the amount of people on this forum that constantly say "How can i make money" "what's the best method to make money" They all have the internet, and are on the biggest money making site on the internet, yet they want guidance and having their hand through all of it...

Elliott1992 said:

If you think you can actually code well from the tutorials over the internet and have the motivation to do it then you're delusional.

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Check out Bucky Roberts aka "thenewboston" on youtube. That guy's tutorials will blow your mind.
And he is doing the right thing in my opinion - education should be free for everyone, everywhere. I believe that the internet provides us with the tool to achieve this some day.

That being said, I don't mean to discourage you. Personal lessons via skype could work very well.
Here's an idea: why don't you set up a similar tutorial channel like the one mentioned above where you teach the basics, and then once you've established yourself as an authority, you offer paid private lessons on your channel?
You could even build an email list offering a free eBook and then later use that list to promote your paid lessons.

If you do that right, it will very likely be way more profitable than offering the lessons here on bhw.

Yeah that could be another idea!! I haven't used youtube for promoting anything so could be difficult to get it up and running as well!!

Java Lessons for $100 a week = Nop.

BlackHAT JAVA Lessons for $100/hr = yes may be

if you teach how to find exploits on web pages and ways to monetize that or may be teach how to code a multithread bot to spam a site, many might be interested.

But I don't see point teaching normal programming which can be learnt for free on the internet.

Your time would be better spent setting up a website for this, getting a 2co account so you can set up recurring bills and a nice checkout then using adwords to bring people in.

Targetting keywords like "cheap programming course" or "online programming course" is going to give you a very good conversion rate because they already know that they wan't it.

Set a test campaign and only spend $100 then if you sell it once you've got your money back, if you don't sell it once then unfortunately your service or your website is cack.

Obviously if they asked me a question about programming i would tell them, And if they asked for help for building a bot, i'd help them. That's why me being there is better, to answer all of their questions etc... And obviously i'm not a normal teacher so they could ask anything they wanted to.

Elliott1992 said:

If you think you can actually code well from the tutorials over the internet and have the motivation to do it then you're delusional. Why would anybody go to university, high school, lower school if everything is already on the internet?? Bit of a silly thing to say really...

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I learned all of my coding experience on the internet over the past 12 years. I went to ITT Tech to check out their programming / network security fields. I taught the professors something and knew everything they had to offer in their curriculum. From basic "Hello world" BATCH scripts(in windows) to scripting in unix to database management. It's all available out there, the courses are just offered for those who need the hands on teaching, as well for those who want the certificate saying that they know it.

Learning programming from the internet is NOT impossible what-so-ever.
They taught Pearl, Python, Ruby, C, C#, C++, Visual Basic, the entire .net framework, PHP, MySQL, AJAX, Javascript, JAVA, I think I'm forgetting a few things, but they taught the majority of them, the core aspects of each one as the course was for only two years.

"Normal" programming that they teach in school, in this industry isn't completely useless as you still need the basics of it, or need to know how to do certain things. But in this industry, coding is a whole new ball game. I know a few programmers that know VB6 like the back of their hand, asked them how to do certain things, and they couldn't even say where to begin. Showed them the source code for it, and they broke it down as much as they could but still didn't fully understand it.


So if you going to do programming, normal programming lessons, I wouldn't charge more than $10 per hour as the majority of it would be useless.
If your going to teach "blackhat" programming, I wouldn't charge more than $50 per hour for it, if that.

Also, what exactly would you be teaching?
Simple programming for the people to use on their own computers?
Programming to be distributed?
If so, you need to know how to use DLL's and automatically register them on the machines in 32 and 64 bit machines, also make sure their comparable with - XP, Vista(rarely), and Windows 7. On top of that, you can't just google it, you need to know the right and wrong, as the majority of the "open calls" on the internet trigger anti virus / firewall programs. Also, it's recommended that you don't use the standard call "URLDownloadToFileA" as it triggers all AV's/Firewalls because everyone and their mother used that in everything.

Also, if you have problems with that, and try to encrypt the API calls with rc4 or blowfish, or any of them out there(just rc4 and blowfish are the most common) that will trigger more antiviruses on users machines. If your teaching them to program to distribute, they won't get any sales.

Also, one other thing with programming, if your moving memory around, you need to show them how to put it back where it belongs, because if they don't and you just let it "hang there" eventually, the system will crash and your "student" and his "customers" will of lost all of their data if they didn't backup correctly (as most people don't).

Elliott1992 said:

If you think you can actually code well from the tutorials over the internet and have the motivation to do it then you're delusional. Why would anybody go to university, high school, lower school if everything is already on the internet?? Bit of a silly thing to say really...

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Nothing silly about it. People go to school because the only thing that matters in the world today is a little bit of paper saying you can do this and that, qualifications is the reason.