Talented programmer searching for brilliant marketer

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I have been in the game for about 6 years developing windows HTTP bot software and PHP scripts. Most of my time in the past few years has been spent upgrading my programming skills and creating an extremely powerful rapid development HTTP bot system. In that time, my marketing skills have diminished.

I am looking for someone who has remarkable ideas, but does not have the resources to complete complex projects. I would like to code your methods and manage running all the software. We would split the profits 50/50.

Even if you have the resources and make plenty of money, I am certain that my skills would impress you, as I believe one of my greatest strengths is improving on what already exists. Please inquire because we could make a ton of money.

Experienced marketers only please. I have plenty of my own ideas that end up yielding little profit, I do not need to try yours. I am not interested in 'coding you program' for some Pakistani rate either.

If you would like to chat, please PM me your Skype
Thanks for reading



Just some ideas of what I have worked on:
- Full AI system incorporated into MSN/Yahoo/MyspaceIM bots
- Xrummer like forum system except with massive databases and Post+Reply campaigns
- Yahoo/Hotmail/Gmail mailers/contact mailers/auto repliers
- Countless social account creaters/adders/mass messengers
- Complete websites with social features
- I-Framed splashes with integrated stats and tracking

Skillset:
C#/VB.NET, PHP, HTML/Javascript/JQuery
 
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you know a system like Amish Shah's Magic Bullet System (which has plenty of integration already) but integrated with monetization scripts & qualification forms for leads similar to that described by Luke Sample (aka Lambo Luke) in Rockstar Alliance - all based on Wordpress.

Apparently they all use iFrames as well.

Just a thought.
DW
 
If you managed to write this catchy header and nice "sales letter" you are already a marketer yourself :)
 
dw_n_cinti said:
you know a system like Amish Shah's Magic Bullet System (which has plenty of integration already) but integrated with monetization scripts & qualification forms for leads similar to that described by Luke Sample (aka Lambo Luke) in Rockstar Alliance - all based on Wordpress.

Apparently they all use iFrames as well.

Just a thought.
DW
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Not sure what you're point was? A bunch of stuff I've never heard of so I'll look into it though
 
bump

have gotten some good responses but still haven't found exactly what i was looking for. someone with experienced social marketing skills who would make a killing with custom bots
 
gnote said:
bump

have gotten some good responses but still haven't found exactly what i was looking for. someone with experienced social marketing skills who would make a killing with custom bots
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might help to post some things u done already
 
Good marketers never settle for 50/50. Marketing is EVERYTHING. Coders can be found anywhere. On big projects we usually pay 10-15% off the gross to our main coder.
 
affarmy said:
Good marketers never settle for 50/50. Marketing is EVERYTHING. Coders can be found anywhere. On big projects we usually pay 10-15% off the gross to our main coder.
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Good coders can't be found everywhere, trust me I'v talked to and seen a lot, your not gonna find a reinrein, sweetfunny sniper or botmaster just randomly..this is why i asked him to show some work.

Marketing is very hard also there both respected traits and go hand in hand.
 
affarmy said:
Good marketers never settle for 50/50. Marketing is EVERYTHING. Coders can be found anywhere. On big projects we usually pay 10-15% off the gross to our main coder.
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Agreed sir, but I am probably better than your main coder. It also depends on what we are talking about exactly in terms of the type of project.

Also 50% implies an equal partnership. I am not completely useless at marketing, I just believe my time is better spent programming because I am great at it. However, I believe one of my strengths is improving on existing ideas. Given a working idea, I am certain I can help to develop it further. Ultimately I suppose that is what I am really looking for, an idea to run with. I have done this before and the end result was turning a $500 a day method into $3k a day.

As a 'programmer', I am not just capable of creating a simple app with a single function, but instead can build very large systems that grow and evolve a method.

For example lets examine my CL mailing system

I don't just scrape emails to a text file and mail them once
I database entire ads with all their info, then run a mailer which works off the database and automatically sends out a bait mail. Then run an auto replier which databases all incoming messages, and links them to the initial victim. The replier pulses the splash page it will send to, generating a unique ID for each link, and automatically sends the reply with the link.

So in the end you will have an ID stored for each user on your splash, which you can link back to each message they have seen, as well as the actual ad that they originally posted. This would be extremely valuable in the marketing and message scheme of the method, allowing you to constantly see what types of things are converting, and who your target really is so you can ultimately send less mail.

The fact that I am able to set up such elaborate systems is well worth 50% because it would constantly grow and improve the marketing method. Developing and maintaining every aspect of this has proven to be incredibly time consuming. I believe my time is better spent developing the software, so I would prefer to find a partner who can handle the marketing end of things so I can spend more time doing what I do best.


GreenGoblin said:
might help to post some things u done already
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I had included a couple brief descriptions of previous projects. I suppose screen shots of my forum software would show something, but most bots are just a thread view and all the work is in the background.
 
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back looking for work so i'm bumping this

anybody interested please message my skype, thanks
 
So what exactly do you need?? I'm interested in marketing what you have and pretty much JVing with you on doing any possible thing.
PM me and let me know what you need, we'll see if we can catch fire :)
 
I've tried contacting you on Skype but you just will not answer.
May I ask why? I'm trying to come with an agreement or idea so we can make a JV but you're not communicating..
 
gonna try another bump on this thread

to anybody looking for a developer, you probably want to talk to me...

thanks for your time
 
I don't mean to rain on your parade here, mate. Just to give you my insight into the problem you're facing. E.q. lack of people willing to JV.

1. You bump at the wrong time of the day. :-)
2. Programmer without ideas and algorithmic knowledge worth less than 50%
3. C# is favored by large companies where quality and speed are less important than production time and market is full of C# programmers
4. Market is full of PHP/Javascript programmers as well

I'm not speaking out of the thin air. I'm programmer since 1993, and know the modern market pretty well. If you want a better response either settle for less than 50%/constant rate, or switch to MFC (for desktop applications) or Java (for mobile apps).
 
We are interested in working with you. Let's see what you have.

gnote said:
Agreed sir, but I am probably better than your main coder. It also depends on what we are talking about exactly in terms of the type of project.

Also 50% implies an equal partnership. I am not completely useless at marketing, I just believe my time is better spent programming because I am great at it. However, I believe one of my strengths is improving on existing ideas. Given a working idea, I am certain I can help to develop it further. Ultimately I suppose that is what I am really looking for, an idea to run with. I have done this before and the end result was turning a $500 a day method into $3k a day.

As a 'programmer', I am not just capable of creating a simple app with a single function, but instead can build very large systems that grow and evolve a method.

For example lets examine my CL mailing system

I don't just scrape emails to a text file and mail them once
I database entire ads with all their info, then run a mailer which works off the database and automatically sends out a bait mail. Then run an auto replier which databases all incoming messages, and links them to the initial victim. The replier pulses the splash page it will send to, generating a unique ID for each link, and automatically sends the reply with the link.

So in the end you will have an ID stored for each user on your splash, which you can link back to each message they have seen, as well as the actual ad that they originally posted. This would be extremely valuable in the marketing and message scheme of the method, allowing you to constantly see what types of things are converting, and who your target really is so you can ultimately send less mail.

The fact that I am able to set up such elaborate systems is well worth 50% because it would constantly grow and improve the marketing method. Developing and maintaining every aspect of this has proven to be incredibly time consuming. I believe my time is better spent developing the software, so I would prefer to find a partner who can handle the marketing end of things so I can spend more time doing what I do best.




I had included a couple brief descriptions of previous projects. I suppose screen shots of my forum software would show something, but most bots are just a thread view and all the work is in the background.
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lancis said:
I don't mean to rain on your parade here, mate. Just to give you my insight into the problem you're facing. E.q. lack of people willing to JV.

1. You bump at the wrong time of the day. :-)
2. Programmer without ideas and algorithmic knowledge worth less than 50%
3. C# is favored by large companies where quality and speed are less important than production time and market is full of C# programmers
4. Market is full of PHP/Javascript programmers as well
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5. Doesn't communicate well enough leaving potential JV partners hanging. Dick move.
 
lancis said:
I don't mean to rain on your parade here, mate. Just to give you my insight into the problem you're facing. E.q. lack of people willing to JV.

1. You bump at the wrong time of the day. :-)
2. Programmer without ideas and algorithmic knowledge worth less than 50%
3. C# is favored by large companies where quality and speed are less important than production time and market is full of C# programmers
4. Market is full of PHP/Javascript programmers as well

I'm not speaking out of the thin air. I'm programmer since 1993, and know the modern market pretty well. If you want a better response either settle for less than 50%/constant rate, or switch to MFC (for desktop applications) or Java (for mobile apps).
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First of all, I'm willing to negotiate anything. I appreciate the criticism, but I'm not your average developer. I'm a very bright, well rounded guy with plenty of ideas who just lacks the resources and funds to get anything off the ground.

It's quite difficult to get this point across, so I just have to rely on interested parties having a discussion with me and realizing what I'm capable of.
 
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