Take note of these very important backlink facts!

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mikie46

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FACT:

It isn't always the person with the most links who ends up first in the
search engine rankings. More and more often it is the person with the
right quality /relevant links for their niche that ends up in the better
position.

FACT:
Here is an exercise: Do a search on your main keywords that you are
targeting. See who ranks in the top ten of the search engine
rankings. Take the time to check out your competitor's backlinks. It may be
that the person who ranks number 1 has less backlinks than the person in
place number 2,3,4 or even 10. If you really analyze each site's backlinks,
you may start to see that the site that has less backlinks is ranked higher
because of the quality and relevance of those backlinks.

Amen

Guys, as we should all know by now: Google isn't stupid. In fact, the
company is becoming smarter and smarter every day. You're playing a cat
and mouse game if you're building your business by trying to outsmart
Google. Do what their terms of service says and think quality not quantity.
Don't take short cuts and do think of your long-term business plan.

All these automated backlink tools are simply garbage. In the end they will hurt
and bring down your sites when you least expect it. Why not build your business
instead of trying to outsmart Google. They will catch up with you sooner or later.
Guaranteed!
 
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ok... so what would be a better way to build links? contact relevant site owners and beg for a link exchange? buy links from them?.. we have to start somewhere. :) But of course you are right, 1 relevant PR8 **************** backlink is more worth than thousands of irrelevant pr 0 comment spam backlinks shared with hundreds of viagra links.
 
of course, backlinks are just one of many aspects google considers. I'd say it's still the strongest part of seo tho.
 
mikie46 said:


Guys, as we should all know by now: Google isn't stupid. In fact, the
company is becoming smarter and smarter every day. You're playing a cat
and mouse game if you're building your business by trying to outsmart
Google.
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Two explorers are out on the African plain when they see this incredibly large and hungry lion about half a mile away heading straight for them.

The first explorer sits down, takes off his hiking boots, and puts on his running shoes.

"Fool!" says the second explorer. "You can't outrun that hungry lion."

"I don't have to outrun the hungry lion," says the first explorer. "I only have to outrun you."

And the moral of the story is that you can't outsmart google but you only have to outsmart those ahead of you in the SERPs.
 
Wow haha, excellent quote ! And excellent post too ;) Nice backlink advices.
 
Kid Shaleen said:
Two explorers are out on the African plain when they see this incredibly large and hungry lion about half a mile away heading straight for them.

The first explorer sits down, takes off his hiking boots, and puts on his running shoes.

"Fool!" says the second explorer. "You can't outrun that hungry lion."

"I don't have to outrun the hungry lion," says the first explorer. "I only have to outrun you."

And the moral of the story is that you can't outsmart google but you only have to outsmart those ahead of you in the SERPs.
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Well said! :biggthump
 
Yes, relevant links and relevant keywords are important to get a favorable position in the search engines. Mere inclusion of links is not sufficient.
 
Kid Shaleen said:
Two explorers are out on the African plain when they see this incredibly large and hungry lion about half a mile away heading straight for them.

The first explorer sits down, takes off his hiking boots, and puts on his running shoes.

"Fool!" says the second explorer. "You can't outrun that hungry lion."

"I don't have to outrun the hungry lion," says the first explorer. "I only have to outrun you."

And the moral of the story is that you can't outsmart google but you only have to outsmart those ahead of you in the SERPs.
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This story sounds all too familiar....
 
Agree..

While I still perform quick link building stuff on two of my affilate sites, as I don't really care what happens to them I am starting to build my new sites (4) according to google standards.

This might be the long way round of course but it works out better in the long run which is what I would prefer anyway.

Still, i'm impatient and want to see results sooner rather than later.
 
Yes it right that a 1k worth of crappy backlinks could equal 1 good backlinks. It is all about he backlink profile coming to the site you have your link to for the most part.
 
Definitely have to agree. Quality of quantity has always been my rule of thumb.
 
So....if I understand what you're saying. Automation is out!

Building backlinks is to be done the ole fashion way, contact site or hope for a link from relevant sites. Is this correct ?

If yes, then we're back to building sites with quality content....no autoblogs, no dup content just plain ole original content.

Man, life will be boring :(

There's gotta be automation tools that still work?
 
Nice parable Kid Shaleen although I didn't think you can apply it exactly the best way in this situation but its close enough and funny enough to where I don't care at all.
 
It will take very long time to create the back links without automation.
 
Kid Shaleen said:
Two explorers are out on the African plain when they see this incredibly large and hungry lion about half a mile away heading straight for them.

The first explorer sits down, takes off his hiking boots, and puts on his running shoes.

"Fool!" says the second explorer. "You can't outrun that hungry lion."

"I don't have to outrun the hungry lion," says the first explorer. "I only have to outrun you."

And the moral of the story is that you can't outsmart google but you only have to outsmart those ahead of you in the SERPs.
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i love this:)
 
r.s.mahanti said:
It will take very long time to create the back links without automation.
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Yeah, I remember a tool I saw in the downloads section that automatically created profiles on websites but I can't seem to find it now and of course its no longer on my hard drive. If no one here has it I might put in a download request.
 
Although I actually agree, in principle with what you say Mikie46, it doesn't seem to apply to one of my niches where my main competitor has less than 10 back links, none of which seem to be from sites of any relevance.

I also think it's due to the fact that he has the dot com for the keyword whereas I only have the dot info which, in my experience, requires more effort to achieve good rankings.
 
topsytips I have noticed that it is always better to invest in a ._com with the keywords at the beginning rather than a ._info with the exact keyword phrase. Even if it means having random characters after the keyword phrase I always go for the ._com. You can try adding words like site, blog, source, info, resource, gateway etc. to the end of the domain name. It may make it longer but for SEO purposes it is working great for me.
 
mad.hat said:
topsytips I have noticed that it is always better to invest in a ._com with the keywords at the beginning rather than a ._info with the exact keyword phrase. Even if it means having random characters after the keyword phrase I always go for the ._com. You can try adding words like site, blog, source, info, resource, gateway etc. to the end of the domain name. It may make it longer but for SEO purposes it is working great for me.
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To be honest Mad.Hat, I wish I had done that now!! It's one of those "benefit of hindsight" moments!!

This particular site started out with me picking a pile of keywords with low competition and I just got the info's at the time due to the sheer volume of sites I was building.

One of these sites in particular is making me a really nice income and obviously has the potential to generate even better results, if only I could get to that elusive No.1 spot!!

I should bite the bullet and get a new domain, as you suggest, but having built so many backlinks to my existing site, it's disheartening to have to start all over again!!

Thanks for your input...much appreciated :)
 
Anyone that's read very many of my posts on the forum knows that I'm definately in the quality over quantity camp. But I don't think that means automation tools are worthless, more care just needs to be put into how they're used.

1 really good quality backlink might be better than 1k of crappy links, but for people that know how to use the tools they can still get a few hundred reasonably ok backlinks that will still be better than a few really good ones. There's a balance that you need to reach between the efforts you put in and the results you get. No matter what you should always try to find some good quality links, but there's nothing wrong with using some automation either as long as you do what you can to get at least some reasonable quality links with them.

If you don't know what you're doing with the tools, then there's nothing wrong with hiring people to do it for you.
 
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