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T1 content - Spun VS unique

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by moonlighsunligh, May 29, 2014.

  1. moonlighsunligh

    moonlighsunligh Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    I have 2 options:
    a) Write pretty quickly a high quality spintax article with 3 sentence replacements and create 20 articles out of that
    b) Write 20 unique articles - for that I need 5x more time/money.

    Is the option b) much better than the option a) in terms of rankings and immunity to future updates?
    Keep in mind that the I spin 3 sentence replacements with 3 sentence replacements and many synonyms in only 20 copies and that the article is not just readable, but is also a decent read.

    It is for long term MNS sites. So the site should last at least 12 months.
     
  2. JasonS

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    For first tier, If i were at your side, I'd highly prefer option (b). But if you can get 95% uniqueness with option (a), then you're good to go. All its depend on the uniqueness and readability of the content.
     
  3. Abstroose

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    Unique, high quality content and nothing else. It's worth the extra time and effort.
     
  4. ikilledkenny

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    it's simple. in term of rankings = no difference at all
    if you want to be a little safer = use unique
     
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    Unique and readable should work.

    I personally use "unique and readable" articles only on my Tier2, then again, it is up to you :)
     
  6. umerjutt00

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    Carefully spun content all the way. I recently started using spun content on my money site and it is a huge time saver if done correctly.
     
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    Depends upon comp and competitors.

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  8. moonlighsunligh

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    WordAi or manually spun?

    I have found that web 2.0 can rank themselves even with spun content, but the Google is able to detect spun content on one site if all the content comes from one article even it has 100 000 words. I guess there is no problem if youu use just one copy of spun article.
     
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    In this niche some people even use unique-non readable content on web 2.0 and the web 2.0 ranks on page #3 while the site in question is #2 on first page.
     
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    You can also spun the articles, but don't use them for often then.
    I work like that: writing 10x high quality 500 words articles and spun them (absolutely readable and hq) about 3 times and use them.
     
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    If they are enough unique it doesn't matter. Everybody says write unique, but in the end Google is still a machine and it can't detect it. In my opinion whatever you can write fastest choose that. Usually if I write it depends on niche, if the niche is easy to spun i choose spun, if I know i can't spin it very well i write them manually
     
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    I have built a site based on things which are a little bit new. When the story or event is new, it means little to no competition. I add 3-4 sentences of handwritten content at the top, an image, call to action and after that all spun content generated via Chimp Rewriter. I gather my content from highly trustable and authority sites. This is going great so far and I have added around 100 articles on my money site. Traffic is going up and even got few sales.
     
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    bestfreespinner.com is doing very well for me. its free and good quality imo.
     
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    If I were at you, I definitely give the first preference to Manually High Quality Unique Content, if you do Tier 1 -- For Tier 2 and Tier 3, you can use Spun content.
     
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  15. Nick Flame

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    I always use unique content for tier 1. It has gotten pretty cheap nowadays - i pay 3$ per 500 words article, not only readable but also good quality, useful info, that the investment is easily recouped.

    Spun content has some downsides, you won't be able to see it immediately, but usually down the road. Your web 2.0 can be flagged and removed from using spun content, in time google is getting better and better at detecting spun content, it's hard to ever gain legitimate links to spun content, if you ever want to expand your tier 1 into satellite sites, legit content makes the transition easier.

    I have been getting legitimate, natural links to my tier 1 web 2.0 countless times by other people because they were made from useful, readable article, and they are also a source of referrals to the website. In the long term, i think it's worth it to use original content.
     
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  16. moonlighsunligh

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    If it isn't a secret where do you get such cheap articles? Do you use them for web 2.0's? I am asking cause I started a journal here so I am looking for the best ways to carry in out successfully - http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...ons/668342-adsense-mns-journey-4000-year.html. So I want to rank MNS sites and this shouldn't cost much as most of these sites wouldn't earn more than $20-$30 per month.

    I tried iwriter and and I get good results only if I tell them the topic and subtopics in details (so practically i do most of the content research) and it costs me around $6 per article. So I need around 10-15 minutes to write description for an article to be written which is quite a bit.


    Even if i say the spun content is unique and high quality? Human written sentence replacements without grammar errors + WordAi to spin it. After that I would do a manual check to ensure everything is spun correctly. Also I use only 20 copies out of the article so it should be very unique. I am not just spinning one article on word level and then submit to 1000 places but rewrite all sentences 2 times and submit at only 20 web 2.0's.
     
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    then i will suggest to build hq web2.0 (2-5 articles each) you can get articles from article rat. (i provides damn cheap spun readable content or you can do it by hand) and the article you will use for backlink should be 500+ words handwritten (there are many cheap writers available ) , i suggested this because you should remain ahead of competitors.
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  18. moonlighsunligh

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    The article rat articles are quite good for web 2.0, but the quality of my spun articles is even higher. Probably even good enough to be used on a money site.
     
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