Sudden ranking drops! Whats this?

Heya guys. I was ranked on #2-5 on all kws from my niche but today all my kws moved to page 5-6 / ranks 50-60+

Did google just slapped me? or is a temporary dance?

Nobody can tell you with no info. Have you checked webmaster tools?

looks like a slap to me. check your webmaster tools if you got any message.

Google dance doesn't drop you to page 5 when you are ranking at the top. Definitely a penalty, check your webmaster tools. If you didn't get any message then it could be an algorithmetic penalty. Did you build any links to the site ?

Using sape, i builded slowly 5 links per day so it shouldn't be a problem

And No google webmaster message.

Looks like a slap.

Think its more likely just dancing - if it was slapped you wouldn't be anywhere in the rankings. Just keep your eye on it

Even my longtails were #2 #3 and now they on page 5-6 as well (for example a long tail that was ranked #2 is now on position #57)

noone has spammed my website or did redirects ,checked with ahrefs and all is fine on that point

I dont have many low quality backlinks, i had 50 sape links pointing at my website then i decided to buy more 25 sape links and after 3-4 days i wake up with this but i doubt is from the latest sape links i bought.

Oh now come to think of, i recently added 150+ facebook post likes in 1 single day without dripfeeding. and today more 30-40+ likes, could social signals be the cause ?

Since no message from webmaster ,i guess it could be an algorithmic penalty

But in this case i am not sure how to proceed ,i am now rechecking my backlinks to make sure they are indexed on google and dissalow those who arent

Also should i delete my social signals ? or keep them

Social won't do anything even if you added a million facebook likes.

Its SAPE and this kind of thing is expected. Maybe your site will recover if you remove the sape links or maybe it won't.

I dont have many low quality backlinks, i had 50 sape links pointing at my website then i decided to buy more 25 sape links and after 3-4 days i wake up with this but i doubt is from the latest sape links i bought.

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Best thing I've read all week.

How are your SAPE links in terms of quality? Have you checked them? SAPE works but if in the right quality. What about your overall link profile?

I guess sape is the reason. I was trying to push my site that was on 2nd page top to 1st page. I got thrown on both sites to page 4-7 as well. It's been a little close to 2 weeks and still no signs of recovery. So that's the only culprit I can think of as I threw the same volume of sape links too few days before the shake up happened.

Google decided to go after SAPE link not long ago. Might be the reason here

Stop with this BS about SAPE being the cause of problems...Or then again just continue to be ignorant about it...Makes it easier for those of us who do use SAPE correctly.

OP...What is your anchor text like? You should be using SAPE for authority, NOT relevance. Use mainly brand or generic anchor text from SAPE pages. Use other links for Contextual (i.e. Web 2.0, PBN, etc.). If you were using your keyword for anchor text from SAPE, go change it (or have your provider do it). SAPE is an authority goldmine. Relevance MUST come from elsewhere.

The other factor you didn't mention is TIME. How long have the links been in place? Have you checked and seen if the SAPE pages you have links on are still indexed in google? And are they cached WITH your link on the page?

Lots of possible explanations here. The "SAPE IS EVIL" argument is a crock of fucking shit. Ignorant morons will feed you BS of which they know NOTHING about. LOTS of us use it successfully. There's providers here with 100's (or 1000+ for some I'm sure) of customers still using it without any problems. Don't believe the hype and the ignorant masses.

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The domain is penalized. Went to manual action and it says

Google has detected a pattern of unnatural artificial, deceptive, or manipulative links pointing to pages on this site. These may be the result of buying links that pass PageRank or participating in link schemes.

Yeah once you see that warning message that site is useless.

Next time slow down. Long term gains are rarely going to stick if you try to rush your sites to the top. Personally If I were in your position I would have worked hard to get just a couple really good links from some top sites in my niche. I advise you to de-index that old site (via webmaster tools), open a new webmaster tools account and become much more careful. Re-write or change a lot of the content on all of your pages, shuffle stuff around on your site as much as possible and clone your site to a new domain after your previous domain is completely de-indexed. Block g-bots from your new site until it is ready for re-launch. Good luck, sorry to hear about your misfortune. It has to happen to everyone atleast once before you make it rain.

karasu1995 said:

Will start from 0
The domain is penalized. Went to manual action and it says

Google has detected a pattern of unnatural artificial, deceptive, or manipulative links pointing to pages on this site. These may be the result of buying links that pass PageRank or participating in link schemes.

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That site is torched. Sucks to hear dude.

A month ago my site was slapped. I got a manual penalty. I was using SAPE links. I deleted all sapes and PBN links I bought here on BHW (asked seller to delete them), submitted a reconsideration request and 4 days after that, I got all my rankings back. I'm still ranking #1 for my main keyword.

Try to clean your backlink profile. Delete what you can and disavow those links you can't. Once your backlink profile is TRULY clean, submit a reconsideration request. I'll get all your rankings back.

My 2 cents.