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Submitting 10,000 links to a URL?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Vindicator, May 24, 2009.

  1. Vindicator

    Vindicator Newbie

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    Hi everyone,

    I have a question I'm sure this community would know the answer to.

    Someone has created a website that its goal is to tarnish and humiliate a person that is close to me. That website is full of lies, uses copyrighted images, etc. We have tried to get Google to remove it but they refuse to (of course). The person is anonymous and we are unable to get its identity. Legally it does not seem to be working either (domain is not hosted in the US).

    I hear that if I post a very large number of links, say, 10,000 in a day, to this URL then Google may think I'm trying to automatically inflate its page rank and will ban it for a while. I also heard that it may backfire and actually increase the page rank.

    At this point, I'm willing to take the risk. I was told there are tools that can do that for me? Can anyone provide advice, criticism, feedback?

    Will greatly appreciate any and all help,
    Vindicator
     
  2. Hyperion

    Hyperion Regular Member

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    You can submit the website to a bot network, you can be sure google will find out one day or another and ban the page.
     
  3. showbizvet

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    could also consider spamming the page, there are multiple people on here that do mailings. However, if the site is on bullet proof hosting, then that wouldn't accomplish much.

    You could just ignore it, let it become lost in the sea of webpage.

    You could create another site (maybe blogger blog) refuting the claims.
     
  4. showbizvet

    showbizvet Power Member

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    could also consider spamming the page, there are multiple people on here that do mailings. However, if the site is on bullet proof hosting, then that wouldn't accomplish much.

    You could just ignore it, let it become lost in the sea of webpage.

    You could create another site (maybe blogger blog) refuting the claims.
     
  5. Vindicator

    Vindicator Newbie

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    Thanks for all the suggestions! I have tried many many things, some which haven't been mentioned here.

    1) I contacted the hosting company (ignored me)

    2) I can't ignore the site - it's (unfortuntely) on top of the google search since they used the person's name as the domain name.

    3) Refuting the claims isn't enough in this case.

    So two questions:
    How do I submit the site to a bot network? and what will this achieve?
    and second, what does it mean to spam the page? You mean a denial of network attack? I can assure you their hosting company isn't bullet proof, but I don't want to do anything that could get ME in trouble. I don't mind breaking Google's rules (since they are simply arbitrary rules), but I don't want to do anything that's actually illegal.

    Thanks for all the suggestions, really appreciate this!

    Vindicator
     
  6. DrJekyll

    DrJekyll Senior Member Premium Member

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    what country you from? us has defamation of character laws, but you would need to link to a person.

    get a lawyer involved. If all is in the use the hosting will need to reveal who is paying for it.

    If it is concidered a hate crime [harder to prove as its not in person] the authorities could get involved.

    basically see a lawyer and find out your options
     
  7. Vindicator

    Vindicator Newbie

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    I'm also pursuing this legally, but so far it's not working as the hosting is out of the US and the hosting company refuses to reveal its owner.
     
  8. Vindicator

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    The only thing I haven't so far, is to somehow get that website to break Google's rules...
     
  9. eskimo

    eskimo Regular Member

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    have you tried whois lookup? you can see there who owns the domain, or at least who it is registered through

    whois (dot) net
     
  10. Vindicator

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    Yep, I have. Just shows me the name of the hosting company, and as said, they refuse to divulge the owner's entity (even after a lawyer sent them a letter). They are not based in the US, so don't fear lawyers...

    I think the only thing I have left is some black hat methods. Please - anyone - help?

    V for Vindicator
     
  11. luizeba

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    Share with us the hosting company...they're based in what country?
     
  12. cloudtap

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    Share that with us and also, I am looking for bot network owners as well, anyone with network(s), please PM me
     
  13. cloudtap

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    Just spam links to the site over and over again -- You can have an Xrumer service person go through and do blasts at $25 each blast of 140k+ or you can even do 1 million+

    After this, have someone make a copy of the site over and over again and just submit the site as well as your duplicate sites to the search engines over and over again -- It pisses the search engines off

    Any other ideas?
     
  14. Vindicator

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    I'm not sure whether the hosting company is based in Malaysia or India.
     
  15. Vindicator

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    Thanks CloudTap. But what will happen if I make a copy of the website? Assuming I'll need to host them on one or more of my domains, Google will get angry at me - will it actually harm the original website? (which has been in existence for around 4 or 5 months).
     
  16. purebackend

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    Hmm Malaysia or India.. Google search a cease and desist email and edit it and send them one.. for some hosting companies that's enough to shut it down

    For bulletproof, russia and whatnot they usually don't care.. But it's worth a shot and only takes a few minutes and it's free

    If not you could do all the old blackhat methods and the new ones wrong and eventually the search engines should get pissed, although the problem is it will still be hosted.

    So let's say you spam it, if the hosting company cares it'll shut it down. so good. Although, spamming is illegal in the states but you aren't advertising your own site so kinda hard to prove who's doing it, especially if you don't do it yourself.

    If you xrumer it excessively or prstorm it like crazy or senuke the shit out of it or something else you should get sandboxed eventually.. the good thing it wont show up in search engine results when it does but the problem is there will be a whole bunch of links everywhere to it.. so if its still hosted itll get exposure still

    the proper way is legally, so try to get everyone involved, the hosting company, their provider, the domain provider as well (i've seen domain registrars dump domains due to copyright)

    the dirty way that wouldnt give him exposure would be probably ddos.. their provider would be upset so would terminate their account or charge him exessively.. although not legal but could get away with it if you pay someone anonymously to do it

    good luck.. friend of mine has same issue.. google his name.. and a bunch of charges come up.. unfortunately it's from a government website so not much he can do hehe
     
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    lemme know i will make a ban
     
  18. Vindicator

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    purebackend - thanks for the excellent analysis! Yes, this is as I thought. I am trying everything legal, but so far it's just not working. I was shocked when Google refused to de-index such a website, they've literally turned into Microsoft. "Do no evil" my ass.

    Not sure about DDOS... since it'll destabilize the hosting company, they're bound to found out who does it, and that is illegal. So I would prefer not to go down that route. There's a difference between doing something that upsets google (with their arbitrary, ill defined 'rules') and something that can get you in trouble.

    Can you PM me your friend's name? I'm curious to hear what his experience is.
     
  19. purebackend

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    Yeah tell me about it. Google's "do no evil" is basically "do nothing" most of the time. Except when they decide to ban people for life, then they do nothing after hehe. Client of mine years ago was doing some shady products online and got banned from google, and I had the misfortune of logging into their account once to aid them in exporting their data. Since my IP logged into their account they banned my IP, name, cc, address for life. I tried to contact them on many occasions and nothing every time. They just don't care.

    For the DDoS, I agree, it's a risky thing to do, and I wouldn't recommend it unless it is a very big issue and nothing else works out. Although, getting caught doing something like that is pretty bad. So any and every legal way would be better. Although, over promotion of the site to get it delisted will eventually remove it from Google but won't bring it down, so that's the other issue.

    As far as my friend's name, I'd rather not share since I don't really want to publicize it, and it's not really my right to do so. Although, basically he had charges filed against him for telemarketing scams years ago and even though it's all settled and done with, there's articles on gov websites about it. No way to get them delisted, and no legal recourse against them since it is true. However, it does cause problems for his business since anytime someone googles his name they think fraud ;)
     
  20. Vindicator

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    So do you now simply not use any Google products? They are a big player, but fortunately not the only one.

    I don't care so much about the site's existence, as long as it's not listed in Google - unfortunately it's ranked very high (#2!) on the search list, and SEO hasn't helped much for various reasons.