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Submit to Google or Index Naturally?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by sotto123, Sep 29, 2014.

  1. sotto123

    sotto123 Registered Member

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    I'm curious if you guys building churn and burn sites submit the url to google or just let google index the site naturally. I might just be paranoid in thinking that if you submit a churn and burn site yourself you're more likely to be on their radar.
     
  2. liberox

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    If You intend to run Churn and Burn project... You don`t need to care about indexing: You`re about to push it with zillions of backlinks - do You think it won`t be even indexed after, lol
     
  3. sotto123

    sotto123 Registered Member

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    True, but I'm just impatient, I suppose.
     
  4. praetserge

    praetserge Power Member

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    It doesn't really matter if you submit the site to google yourself, although I have to say that I let G find my sites naturally through links.
     
  5. c4rtel

    c4rtel Registered Member

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    If Google makes decisions based on
    the google submit tool
    I would sh*t my pants.
     
  6. ddederick

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    Don't build gazillion backlins before the site is safely indexed. It's super-unnatural and it will get your site into the sandbox. (Been there, done that.) Let big G index it with few backlinks or an indexing service and then go crazy.
     
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    It doesn't matter if your site is for the long run or a churn and burn. You should let it be "naturally" indexed.

    The reason I put it in quotes is that your link building activity (old or new) will trigger Google crawlers. As a paranoid marketer, you should not risk submitting it to Google for the chance that they flag you as a suspicious webmaster with tendency for manipulation.

    Patience is a precious skill!
     
  8. BigMoneyyy

    BigMoneyyy Power Member

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    Don't submit it. It's better to index a site naturally.
     
  9. aldis

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    With just a few backlinks here and there your site should be indexed in no time. Let the G crawler do it's job :)
     
  10. xjapan

    xjapan Power Member

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    do not submit, let's the spider crawl naturally to avoid suspicious if you plan to use blackhat
     
  11. SEO Power

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    Submitting your site to Google won't increase the chances of your site getting penalised. Your site is just one out of tons of sites being submitted everyday and the submission/indexing process is automatic.

    As for submitting vs waiting, I'd rather wait for Google to index my site than submit it. Each time I've used that "fetch as Google" tool to submit my new sites, I've experienced indexing issues on the sites submitted. Sometimes they would get indexed and then deindexed after a few hours.

    Most new sites will get indexed within one week (mine is usually 4 days) with just one high PR backlink. So, just wait.

    By the way, it's not advisable to add your churn and burn sites to Google webmaster tools.
     
  12. wetkon

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    One should submit site and its link as much as possible to not even google, but to others too.

    You cant wait for them to start searching for your website naturally.

    Thanks
     
  13. Zwielicht

    Zwielicht Moderator in Training Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    I used the fetch as Google tool once, but that was only after my website was indexed naturally. I only used it because I had moved my website to a self-hosted Wordpress site from a Blogger website, so my website's pages were getting deindexed (I was even down to 2 indexed pages at one point). Just let it index naturally unless you were in the same situation as I was.
     
  14. bestimtoolz

    bestimtoolz Newbie

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    These days you don`t need to index site manually for C&B or even for w WH sites, your backlinks will index it.
     
  15. Zwielicht

    Zwielicht Moderator in Training Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Unless your website is brand new and you don't have any backlinks, then I could see why someone would manually submit their website.
     
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    That its better to index a naturally, Don't submit it.
     
  17. Uniqu3

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    I would let google index it naturally rather than having google to force index your website.
     
  18. MICHAEL JONES

    MICHAEL JONES Newbie

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    Google will index all high PR links automatically. Dnt need to submit it for index.
     
  19. serpmover2014

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    its much better to ping the site so it get found quicker. IMO. It has no negative effects on my sites or my client sites. :))
     
  20. YoungGooner

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    depends on what platform you used to create your site,if its wordpress,and you used a plugin called yoast,then within a couple of hours your site will be indexed, if still the site is not indexed,you can use an indexing service like instant link indexer,links get indexed within a couple of minutes.