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Stupid Question Corner: Clickbombing the Enemy, Why Not Do It ?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by B. Friendly, Oct 12, 2012.

  1. B. Friendly

    B. Friendly BANNED BANNED

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    Okay so it's a hypothetical question in the Lounge, so keep yer underwear unwadded please. I just want to know why knocking-off someone's Ad-Sense account isn't commonly done. It seems like it would be easy to do, with no risk of getting caught.

    So, why not do it?
     
  2. axus_auto

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    Karma? Ethics? Not a desperado? Anyway, you should be concentrating on ranking high or monetizing, not eliminating the competition I guess?
     
  3. KeyzDT

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    how does that help you?
     
  4. 75INZ

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    It would ultimately end up just being a waste of your time.

    Google aren't silly and can see that all of a sudden this person is getting a thousand clicks a day from one IP or from a whole range of IPs (Say from around the world) if you are using proxies. They'd then compare that to their previous data of 5 clicks a day from a certain IP range (Say, just America) and see that something was up. They may auto ban that person, but that person would have a solid case to get unbanned.

    They probably take even more variables into account as well such as click frequency, landing page visiting time and other things, but those two I previously mentioned would be the main ones.

    I'd then assume Google would ban all the IPs that were spam clicking ads, or at least block them from usingup advertisers revenue when a click did occur.
     
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  5. Got Green

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    Other than because people shouldn't do that, and also it's not and time-effective for you to do it (you won't profit anymore, unless it's a part of a plan or something), it probably just won't work. Google isn't that stupid I want to believe.
     
  6. TheViceroy

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    Google is pretty smart when it comes to this type of thing. In theory if you continued to do it, you might be able to get them banned, but that wouldn't be a good thing to do. It also wouldn't harm their search engine ranking... so it wouldn't help you.
     
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    That's because even though the other person might be a competitor but you still have to be B. Friendly with them. :eek:
     
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    If you do that, then congratulation you are stupid, dont respect other work and are retarded.

    Respect others work and beat him by your work, not using bad methods to ruin him
     
  10. B. Friendly

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    Latvia is close to Czechoslovakia, isn't it? You sound like a "wild & crazy guy".

    [video]http://www.hulu.com/watch/19591[/video]
     
  11. necro

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    It's funny how people here are discussing to not doing, since you dont respect his work and you are not a nice guy etc...

    on a blackhat forum...

    Because you know, we wouldn't ever do something bad... ever...
     
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  12. 75INZ

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    Black hat does not mean being an asshole.
     
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  13. private parts

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    You can do it but it's more benefical to focus on your money sites. It's considered a dick move.

    If you're going through with it i recommend slowly increasing your clicks.
    example:
    day 1 : 5 clicks
    day 2 : 8 clicks
    day 3 : 15 clicks

    Do it from a range of proxies (private ones) and actually browse the website a bit so you don't up their bounce rate.

    I highly recommend not doing it though
     
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  14. necro

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    Actually it does.

    Because what ever you do it's gonna piss someone off...
     
  15. 75INZ

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    Wrong again.

    You could do things completely white hat and still piss people off if you out rank them or something like that.
     
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  16. radarsurge

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    Because it's wrong and it doesn't help you. You'd have to set up quite the network to get away with it... it might just be easier to rank a site and actually make some money, no?
     
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    This thread was intended to be a technical discussion. I was hoping that someone that had good-quality knowledge about how Google differentiates between ad-sense clicks would come along and post. The caliber of talent and knowledge on this forum still surprises me, to the point that I almost expect it. I've thought about this to the point where it felt like I ran out of brainpower, and I started this thread hoping that someone else could move my (and our) awareness forward.

    As I see it, there are 3 kinds of Ad-Sense clicks that Google needs to be able to differentiate. They are:

    1) Legitimate clicks from legitimate users that, for whatever reason have come to a particular page and clicked an ad.
    2) Non-legitimate clicks from the account holder (or his proxies) that are intended to generate illegitimate income from those clicks.
    3) Non-legitimate clicks from someone not associated with the account holder, for the purpose of getting the account holder's account banned.

    See, my real question is about how Google could differentiate between those three situations. If they make a mistake in any of those 3, they fail in their basic mission to deliver legitimate views for paying advertisers, which is the whole point of their existence, because at core Google is not a search engine company, it is an advertiser.

    The moral views are nice, but really off-topic. I think it's the place people have a tendency to go when they haven't anything more substantive to say, but they are interested in the topic and want to be associated with the discussion, which means they have to say "something". I do this myself. However, lately I've been learning the value of the "Subscribe" button on the "Thread Tools" menu. It gives me the ability to follow a thread without requiring me to say something that is irrelevant or off-topic. Maybe someone else may find this suggestion useful.
     
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  18. Cas87

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    The obvious reason is that it does not benefit you in anyway, your time would be far better spent actually trying to make money than trying to make your competition earn less..

    If you look at it this way.. You spend 20 hours hurting your competitions profit, that is 20 hours you could have spent increasing your profit, so you would just be attacking your self.. it is a no win situation since nothing changes with the competitions website rank.

    There is absolutely no reason what so ever for anyone to do this... unless they get kicks out of this kind of thing.

    On the other hand, attacking a competitor to drop their website rankings and increase yours would be a different story. I don't agree with this either, but it isn't completely daft.
     
  19. Roparadise

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    In order to trick google, you literely need a pool of at least hundreds of thousands of ip's among other various complicated issues.
     
  20. Tensegrity

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    Cuz if you do it, you're an asshole.