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Still being outranked after copying backlinks?

Discussion in 'Link Building' started by zacatictac, Sep 21, 2010.

  1. zacatictac

    zacatictac Power Member

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    I have copied all of my competitors backlinks and done a few scrapebox blasts to a site of mine. I waited a few weeks and they still outrank me. i have thousands of backlinks (checked yahoo site explorer) and they only have 20 or so forum backlinks, all of wich i have copied. Anybody have any ideas on why this might be? Granted im only one or two spots below them, but still im a bit curious as to what i should do to get that #1 spot. Thanks guys.
     
  2. peter2002

    peter2002 Senior Member

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    Moved to "Link Building."
     
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  3. outsidethesquare

    outsidethesquare Regular Member

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    Go through an on-page SEO checklist (just google that) and do the same with their website to see if they are superior in that aspect.

    As powerful as backlinks are, on-page SEO cannot be completely ignored as it still plays a large part. Everything from h1 tags to keyword density play a part.

    It could just be that you need to tweak a few aspects of your website to get there.
     
  4. volund

    volund Senior Member

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    Also you may just need to wait a bit. I have noticed that Google seems to be giving links more worth as they age. So if your competitor has had a link for a year and you have had it for a week then they are still getting more credit for that link.

    I had the same thing happen on a site I have been working on for several months. I had the sites above me way outclassed in links, my onpage was good but I could not get past #5 for a couple of months. It just sat there at #5 no matter how many links I built. I was seriously frustrated and then one day I jumped to #3 and then a few days later to #1 and it has been solid as a rock for a few months now. Just keep building links and it will come. Start thinking about new keywords or a new site in the meantime.
     
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  5. lewi

    lewi Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Problem is yahoo site explorer still wont show all your competitors backlinks!

    Send me a PM of your competitor and i will give you the number of backlinks for free so you can have a better idea on how many you really need!

    If you want a list of their backlinks then check my sig too.

    But remember all stats you get on backlinks from the regular paths (yahoo site explorer, google etc) never show the true amounts.

    Lewi
     
  6. polymath

    polymath Registered Member

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    Hey, time is also a variable in the equation of ranking. Just like wine, let old wine age while creating new batches...:D
     
  7. Bugalugs

    Bugalugs Regular Member

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    Other linking factors.
    Actual age of domain
    DMOZ and Yahoo listings
    EDU links
    Keyword in URL and domain name

    Does your competitor have all these? Do you have all of these?
     
  8. studentcashnow

    studentcashnow Regular Member

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    you might just be sandboxed, 20 forum backlinks is nothing to compete with. Give it a few weeks i am sure you will be no.1 .
     
  9. navimeister

    navimeister Regular Member

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    4 things comes in mind:

    - website age
    - keyword in domain name
    - on-site SEO
    - content update frequency
     
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    polocolto Regular Member

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    Depending on the niche, this has no impact.
     
  11. jaxinvt

    jaxinvt Newbie

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    He probably has some full articles pointing to his site that explorer isn't picking up. Throw up a few articles in places like articlebase and hubpages and point those back to your main site. Google gives the whole article with a link more juice than just a link.
     
  12. insanedragonz

    insanedragonz Newbie

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    I will tell you this..Domain Age has a very important factor in ranking also.