stealing subreddits

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someone stole my friend's subreddit.

he had 150k-200k members and +12 years old subreddit, sfw active gaming subreddit.

anyone has experience with this?

his account didn't got hacked.

somehow the guy who stole it made a deal with reddit admins to ban my friend from his own subreddit and make the new guy full moderator.

his account is still fine, owns few more subreddits.

the guy who stole it, pins merch posts and other things his friends sell.

can we just grab any subreddit by just making a deal with reddit admins?
 
Yeah I'm not looking for 'the method' of doing it or how to restore it.

I just want to see if this is a trend and if are users here who already been doing it.

or was just something only happened to my friend and nobody else
 
can we just grab any subreddit by just making a deal with reddit admins?
I've seen a few people complain about something similar.

I don't know if it's truly stealing and making a deal with reddit admin, but something I do know exists is the option to request to take over a subreddit. If the sub reddit is unmoderated or the moderator(s) are not active.

I don't know how they calculate the activity of moderators because someone on here complained that he moderates his subs every evening for a few hours but still lost it.

Reddit is filled with phoney people and admins who abuse their power/position.
 
There are some corrupt admins but there are way more mods that don't understand how things work. Logging into the backend is not moderating. Mods need to actively moderate & respond to modmail or they can lose the subreddit. If there is nothing to moderate for an extended time, a mod may have to create modwork for themselves or the automated system will assume they are inactive and get removed.

Most mod work is not noticeable to the public. If a mod account has no public activity, that means nothing. The mod can be very active in the backend mod panel and the public never sees that. Making public posts can create an opening for the mod to be banned. Someone could claim the public post is breaking TOS or falsely claim vote manipulation so some mods do not publicly post from their mod account.
 
Also Reddit emails out a link you have to click on every now and again, as a mod. I've almost missed it before. If you don't click on it... poof! goodbye subreddit.
 
you can take over any subreddit if the creator/mods haven't had had public activity in 60 days.

https://old.reddit.com/r/redditrequest/
This is probably what happened. for anyone thinking or requesting a subreddit, the mods of r/redditrequest are quite strict with who they give subreddits too. Your request will most likely get denied if you don't have experience moderating a sub that's a similar size to the one you're requesting.
 
i finally got a bunch of subs I'd been requesting for ages, and then the next day they banned the account they gave them to, so now they are filled with bogus illegal porn that i can't remove lol
 
Was the person who took over the subreddit also a moderator? If so, your top mod likely went inactive, and the lower mod reordered the mod list and took control of the subreddit. That’s why it's important to avoid giving full permissions to other mods, as they can do this.

This can also happen through Reddit Requests. If your top mod friend was inactive or breaking Reddit’s ToS, others can request to take over the subreddit.

You can check out more on how this works here: https://new.reddit.com/r/redditrequest/
 
Any idea on how the auto approver works? I've had 3 auto approved but the last 2 went to manual review.
 
No no, this is very common. At one time, i stole a variety of subs from people. Go to r/redditrequest and read their rules. They have a whole song and dance they go through. In summary, they set this up so that people can step in and take-over unmoderated subs or abandoned subs.

Unfortunately for them, a lot of it is automated so it is very easy to exploit. You put in a request for a particular subreddit and their systems will mass mail all the mods of that sub and basically say "Hey, if you are not unmoderated, come to this thread and argue against this person's accusation." If, after a certain period of time (A week to two weeks) they don't hear back from anyone, then it wipes all the mods from the sub and puts the requested up as the head moderator.

The exploit I used is simple, but also simple to thwart. Here is the process...

1) Identify a sub that has only one moderator or only one active moderator. (It doesn't matter how many they actually have, you just want a moderation team that will not check its mail in the next two weeks)

2) Remove the only active moderator. You can do this by (A) Waiting until he goes out of town. (B) Overwhelming admins with complaints about how allows things that violate TOS on the sub. Or (C) Make an accusation of child porn to the correct admins, thereby prompting an extended investigation as he is temporarily suspended and someone on the admin team is tasked with going over every DM he has ever sent to see if there is any evidence of this.

3) Put in a sub request the MOMENT he is suspended. The timing on this has to be perfect. If you wait too long then he could return from suspension in time to stop it.

And now here is the way you thwart it: Many accounts, many moderators. It only takes a single moderator to respond to the DM, show up at the reddit request thread and say "No, actually, it is not abandoned. I am a mod."

The problem with a lot of head moderators is that they have a nasty habit of consolidating power and then deciding not to share it with anyone. On top of this, when they get suspended, they have no idea what is about to happen so they get the idea that all they have to do is hang out and wait for their suspension to end and everything will be fine. They are oblivious to the fact that their sub is being stolen and even if they knew... there is nothing they can do about it because they are forbidden from responding to DMs or making a thread comment.

This is why, on all the more established subs, you will not only see handfuls of 'junior mods' but also a massive list of hidden mods. These are accounts that were given moderator status but do not show up on the public mod list. These are typically backup accounts so that if anything ever happened, the head moderator could proxy in to the backup account and continue moderating the sub despite the suspension.

Hope this helps.
How do you add a list of hidden mods? Is there a specific way to do this? I cant find any documentation within reddit.
 
No no, this is very common. At one time, i stole a variety of subs from people. Go to r/redditrequest and read their rules. They have a whole song and dance they go through. In summary, they set this up so that people can step in and take-over unmoderated subs or abandoned subs.

Unfortunately for them, a lot of it is automated so it is very easy to exploit. You put in a request for a particular subreddit and their systems will mass mail all the mods of that sub and basically say "Hey, if you are not unmoderated, come to this thread and argue against this person's accusation." If, after a certain period of time (A week to two weeks) they don't hear back from anyone, then it wipes all the mods from the sub and puts the requested up as the head moderator.

The exploit I used is simple, but also simple to thwart. Here is the process...

1) Identify a sub that has only one moderator or only one active moderator. (It doesn't matter how many they actually have, you just want a moderation team that will not check its mail in the next two weeks)

2) Remove the only active moderator. You can do this by (A) Waiting until he goes out of town. (B) Overwhelming admins with complaints about how allows things that violate TOS on the sub. Or (C) Make an accusation of child porn to the correct admins, thereby prompting an extended investigation as he is temporarily suspended and someone on the admin team is tasked with going over every DM he has ever sent to see if there is any evidence of this.

3) Put in a sub request the MOMENT he is suspended. The timing on this has to be perfect. If you wait too long then he could return from suspension in time to stop it.

And now here is the way you thwart it: Many accounts, many moderators. It only takes a single moderator to respond to the DM, show up at the reddit request thread and say "No, actually, it is not abandoned. I am a mod."

The problem with a lot of head moderators is that they have a nasty habit of consolidating power and then deciding not to share it with anyone. On top of this, when they get suspended, they have no idea what is about to happen so they get the idea that all they have to do is hang out and wait for their suspension to end and everything will be fine. They are oblivious to the fact that their sub is being stolen and even if they knew... there is nothing they can do about it because they are forbidden from responding to DMs or making a thread comment.

This is why, on all the more established subs, you will not only see handfuls of 'junior mods' but also a massive list of hidden mods. These are accounts that were given moderator status but do not show up on the public mod list. These are typically backup accounts so that if anything ever happened, the head moderator could proxy in to the backup account and continue moderating the sub despite the suspension.

Hope this helps.
Hi! Thanks for sharing your experience, what programming language did you use for this exploit?
 
I've seen a few people complain about something similar.

I don't know if it's truly stealing and making a deal with reddit admin, but something I do know exists is the option to request to take over a subreddit. If the sub reddit is unmoderated or the moderator(s) are not active.

I don't know how they calculate the activity of moderators because someone on here complained that he moderates his subs every evening for a few hours but still lost it.

Reddit is filled with phoney people and admins who abuse their power/position.
Thank goodness BHW moderation is not like that!!! I heard that some of the OG moderators from Reddit are trying to support the evolution of change there - there's a growing visibility of what a moderation role involves and there needs to be a balance between community-led mod and a mod code of impartiality & professionalism IMHO
 
No no, this is very common. At one time, i stole a variety of subs from people. Go to r/redditrequest and read their rules. They have a whole song and dance they go through. In summary, they set this up so that people can step in and take-over unmoderated subs or abandoned subs.

Unfortunately for them, a lot of it is automated so it is very easy to exploit. You put in a request for a particular subreddit and their systems will mass mail all the mods of that sub and basically say "Hey, if you are not unmoderated, come to this thread and argue against this person's accusation." If, after a certain period of time (A week to two weeks) they don't hear back from anyone, then it wipes all the mods from the sub and puts the requested up as the head moderator.

The exploit I used is simple, but also simple to thwart. Here is the process...

1) Identify a sub that has only one moderator or only one active moderator. (It doesn't matter how many they actually have, you just want a moderation team that will not check its mail in the next two weeks)

2) Remove the only active moderator. You can do this by (A) Waiting until he goes out of town. (B) Overwhelming admins with complaints about how allows things that violate TOS on the sub. Or (C) Make an accusation of child porn to the correct admins, thereby prompting an extended investigation as he is temporarily suspended and someone on the admin team is tasked with going over every DM he has ever sent to see if there is any evidence of this.

3) Put in a sub request the MOMENT he is suspended. The timing on this has to be perfect. If you wait too long then he could return from suspension in time to stop it.

And now here is the way you thwart it: Many accounts, many moderators. It only takes a single moderator to respond to the DM, show up at the reddit request thread and say "No, actually, it is not abandoned. I am a mod."

The problem with a lot of head moderators is that they have a nasty habit of consolidating power and then deciding not to share it with anyone. On top of this, when they get suspended, they have no idea what is about to happen so they get the idea that all they have to do is hang out and wait for their suspension to end and everything will be fine. They are oblivious to the fact that their sub is being stolen and even if they knew... there is nothing they can do about it because they are forbidden from responding to DMs or making a thread comment.

This is why, on all the more established subs, you will not only see handfuls of 'junior mods' but also a massive list of hidden mods. These are accounts that were given moderator status but do not show up on the public mod list. These are typically backup accounts so that if anything ever happened, the head moderator could proxy in to the backup account and continue moderating the sub despite the suspension.

Hope this helps.
Actually, some of what you are saying is not nice - why is it okay to fake accusations? How about supporting the building of Community?
 
Actually, some of what you are saying is not nice - why is it okay to fake accusations? How about supporting the building of Community?
Don't hate the player, hate the game.

Take a look at reddit. You think those mods don't do the things I described? You think they got to where they are by playing nice and playing fair? Don't be naive.
 
someone stole my friend's subreddit.

he had 150k-200k members and +12 years old subreddit, sfw active gaming subreddit.

anyone has experience with this?

his account didn't got hacked.

somehow the guy who stole it made a deal with reddit admins to ban my friend from his own subreddit and make the new guy full moderator.

his account is still fine, owns few more subreddits.

the guy who stole it, pins merch posts and other things his friends sell.

can we just grab any subreddit by just making a deal with reddit admins?
I never think admin from reddit could be do that, it's impossible or maybe have a faker to do that
 
wow never heard of this - he must be botted reported and got banned and the other guy claimed the subireddit , crazy move
 
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