Stay Far Away From Propeller Ads!!

patadeperro said:

I think is very important to give perspective every time these conversations arrive, Media buying is probably the most difficult game in town and I can tell you it takes YEARS to master, the principle is the same everywhere buy traffic and send them to a process that will leave you a profit, sound simple right? well is NOT, is extremely difficult to master even when the traffic is of the highest quality, I do NOT have a dog into this fight regarding the people who are arguing on one side or the other BUT I do buy from propeller ads, I do media buying and I have some experience that helps me to bring perspective to the things, first I will analyze the arguments and numbers the people against propeller ads:





The first thing I notice is the amount of money they are talking about... anybody who has done some media buying knows that the larger your sample is the better your data will be.... there are people who put 3 times the affiliate commission they will get, there are others who want to have at least 1000 visitors, others who test at least one week to understand the variations on the market..... so unles @IceyDan has some proven funnel and a converting offer $100 is LOW to test and even LOWER to make a profit if you already have a proven process... but I may be wrong.

Many of these networks that sell "cheap" traffic send you bots or not top-quality traffic... BUT that is our fault... why? because everybody is looking for cheap clicks.... nobody is looking for "clicks that convert at a profit", who cares if I have to pay $5 usd per click if after $300 dollars I make $500? on the other hand who cares if I pay .0000000001 per click if after $1000 nothing converts?... so an experienced affiliate understands this and has his tools ready.. what tools? landing pages, scripts to grab the bots, tracking tools, conversion software, callbacks etc... I do not see any of that language on the part of the people who are complaining about getting scammed.... they may have it but it did not mention it.... another thing is that many of these networks that allow you to promote things like Crypto, Weightloss, investment, etc... want you to make a bigger initial deposit... that is exactly their entry point to avoid these type of situations, basically they are saying:"IF $200 usd initial fee is too much for you, go, learn how to make this amount constantly and come back once you have learned that $200 is just a number that you have learned to multiply it and I do not want you to be writing me 50 emails telling me you did not have a single conversion after $10 usd".

Now I will invite you to analyze the language, screenshots and info the people who are PRO propeller ads are providing:

This way is making some interesting claims that align with my experience:



After that @TiagoS not only provide screenshots (you may say they may be fake and yes they may and you can say he can be shilling for propeller ads, but if you see his profile and comments you can see that the guy KNOWS, I have no relationship with TiagoS I have never called him or anything before etc..), besides that you can see that TiagoS is talking about "optimization and filtering" key phrases from somebody that has played the game, that knows there may be people wanting to pump up his numbers BUT he is ready to clean up and separate the good from the bad..... now I want you to see that he (she?) is posting a screenshot from Voluum.... Voluum is a tool that costs $69 USD/month in its most basic plan... (he could have used free tools such as Bemob, even google Analytics can track conversions, or some low-entry software like CPA labs) why is this important? this guy is investing in his working tools!! and he is using state-of-the-art technology to achieve his goals!! this guy is investing more in his tools just to identify fraudsters from real visitors than the amount of money OP is fighting!!!


So believe any side you want but I think the information and proof providing by the people in this thread lead me to the conclusion that @Icey Dan is starting in his Media Buyer journey and he feels frustrated by the fact he did not make a profit, wants his money back (he is right on this and the delay time propeller ads are taking to give his money back for sure!!), but unfortunately, all these things are part of the game, if I were you I would use the rest of the money to test some more offers, see if I can so some traffic arbitrage and... move on, you bought for $50 USD a very important lesson, but this does not mean (at least in my book) that propeller ads are scammers, cheers.

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Icey Dan said:

I had heard some good things about them here and on other forums so I decided to deposit $50 to try advertising with push ads. After spending the first $50 I quickly learned that the traffic is absolutely garbage and I was never going to get any conversions. At that point I requested a refund on the remaining $50 in my account balance..

They gave me a hard time but finally agreed to refund me, saying it would be about 5 days to process it. That's fine, I understand refunds can take time for accounting purposes. But after 5 days I hadn't heard from them, so I reached out and was told to be patient. 5 more days go by and still nothing, so I reach out once again and got the same answer, "please be patient refunds take time blah blah blah". Since then they just ignore me every time I try to ask for an update, so I've just accepted I'm probably not getting the refund.

I would advise you all to stay clear from this platform! Terrible traffic and even worse business practices.

Rant over.

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D0XB0X said:

Most banner and push ads platforms are trash.

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Icey Dan said:

I had heard some good things about them here and on other forums so I decided to deposit $50 to try advertising with push ads. After spending the first $50 I quickly learned that the traffic is absolutely garbage and I was never going to get any conversions. At that point I requested a refund on the remaining $50 in my account balance..

They gave me a hard time but finally agreed to refund me, saying it would be about 5 days to process it. That's fine, I understand refunds can take time for accounting purposes. But after 5 days I hadn't heard from them, so I reached out and was told to be patient. 5 more days go by and still nothing, so I reach out once again and got the same answer, "please be patient refunds take time blah blah blah". Since then they just ignore me every time I try to ask for an update, so I've just accepted I'm probably not getting the refund.

I would advise you all to stay clear from this platform! Terrible traffic and even worse business practices.

Rant over.

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Icey Dan said:

I had heard some good things about them here and on other forums so I decided to deposit $50 to try advertising with push ads. After spending the first $50 I quickly learned that the traffic is absolutely garbage and I was never going to get any conversions. At that point I requested a refund on the remaining $50 in my account balance..

They gave me a hard time but finally agreed to refund me, saying it would be about 5 days to process it. That's fine, I understand refunds can take time for accounting purposes. But after 5 days I hadn't heard from them, so I reached out and was told to be patient. 5 more days go by and still nothing, so I reach out once again and got the same answer, "please be patient refunds take time blah blah blah". Since then they just ignore me every time I try to ask for an update, so I've just accepted I'm probably not getting the refund.

I would advise you all to stay clear from this platform! Terrible traffic and even worse business practices.

Rant over.

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shu1er said:

I used Propeller in the past when was in affiliate marketing and everything was fine.
Spent 20k+$ there and their push, pops, native traffic is one of the best on the market.
If you can't convert it, you're just doing something wrong.

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