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I am new to this, and I have been searching and reading and I feel I am running in circles....

I am hoping some kind an compassionate soul would be willing to mentor me. Obviously I would prefer it to be someone who operates with integrity...( in regards to personal business relationships- Blackhat tactics obviously are acceptable, considering where I am posting)

This is what I have at my disposal:

60 hours per wk for online activities;
Web hosting reseller account w/
  • 600GB Storage
  • 6 TB transfer/Month
  • Access to new torrents
  • 5000 email account space
  • 100 SQL dbs
  • 6gb of Blackhat scripts apps
    $50. Credit Google ad words.
    [/LIST}
    What I would like:
    I would like to generate 80.00 - 100.00 /day

    Any interested party please feel free to email me or IM me
    synergistic2001 on AIM
    [email protected]
    with a list of their requirements for assistance.

    Thanks,
 
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I find a lot of these "mentor" posts funny, I mean you're basically asking someone to show you how to make at least $36,000 a year.

I realize that it's good natured but what are you going to offer someone to do that for you?I just don't see anyone legit taking you up because if they were legit they'd want at least 15 grand to teach you a couple of daily cash methods.

And not to state the obvious, but you are in a forum full of strategies you can use, and actual real strategies, not the typical crap in most forums.
 
man what a good idea. sign me up for the mentoring program too! i don't have as much cool stuff as idenguy but i have similar. pm me if you want a blackhat slave to do your bidding.
 
Is there a group of like minded individuals.. ( Oh How Napoleon Hill would be so proud of me)

I would like to create a collaborative. - A few motivated fellow Noobs who are anxious to learn.. and work together.

I would like to use this forum as the main resource,

Any Advice?
 
Nevarc said:
I find a lot of these "mentor" posts funny, I mean you're basically asking someone to show you how to make at least $36,000 a year.

I realize that it's good natured but what are you going to offer someone to do that for you?I just don't see anyone legit taking you up because if they were legit they'd want at least 15 grand to teach you a couple of daily cash methods.

And not to state the obvious, but you are in a forum full of strategies you can use, and actual real strategies, not the typical crap in most forums.
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Nevarc... I am glad you took the time to respond... Even if it was to point out the blindingly obvious negative factors. Most likely I hadn't thoroughly considered my options and possible responses before posting. I understand you may be making 36000 per year via these methods, so if you are offering to mentor me, then we can enter into discussions of what I have to offer in return... If you aren't willing to help... I still thank you for stopping by to post and offering valuable insight into the world of blackhat SEO.

This forum is an incredible resource.. I am learning so much.. I ask for a mentor so i can get a point of reference... I fell that I am finding myself running around in circles with different methods, and techniques. I explain what I have available and rely on someone to say " Hey THIS is what would work best with that!!!"

Obviously I wouldn't expect someone to offer their assistance and valuable time to get me on the right track without offering some type of compensation.

Thanks to all.
 
idenguy, the key is to really focus, which, I know here can be a task all by itself. Just too much information. If you do not focus you will do nothing but spin your wheels, giving you no chance to dominate anything.
 
caretaker2007 said:
idenguy, the key is to really focus, which, I know here can be a task all by itself. Just too much information. If you do not focus you will do nothing but spin your wheels, giving you no chance to dominate anything.
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That is where I continuously find myself... Chasing after specific info and then slipping onto another path. I think that is where I am seeking guidance the most. I have collected almost every app that is even mentioned once and then putting them aside because I fall off into another direction.

if anyone has hints on how to Succeed over adhd without meds.. let me know.

: )
 
I've tried to mentor in the past, generally the deal was I get half of everything you make from my techniques for a year. If I taught them CPA marketing they paid me half of their affiliate earnings, etc.

The problem I found was constantly getting screwed over, eventually these so called "noobs" get smarter and then decide to make additional CPA accounts where they direct most of the traffic to cut me out. Makes sense really.

The other option is to charge upfront to be a mentor. So if someone wants you to teach them a method that will make them $30,000 for that year, you could charge $10,000 for the training.

Problem with that is most don't have that kind of money when they are starting out, hence why they need a mentor in the first place.

The last option is one I get all the time, people begging me to teach them in exchange for them working for me. Problem with this is, why would someone want to teach you to compete against them for some simple administrative work when they can hire someone on craigslist for $8 an hour?, or if it's BS work $4 an hour from an overseas staffing company? You can argue "because it's free labor" but anyone really making a ton of cash could care less about paying $8 an hour.

I think you have a good idea with getting a few newcomers to the game together and pooling your time and effort. I just don't think anyone who can really offer you value is going to mentor you. At best you'll get offers from people who want to use you for free work and never really "teach" you anything, so be careful in what deals you make.
 
Nevarc said:
I've tried to mentor in the past, generally the deal was I get half of everything you make from my techniques for a year. If I taught them CPA marketing they paid me half of their affiliate earnings, etc.

The problem I found was constantly getting screwed over, eventually these so called "noobs" get smarter and then decide to make additional CPA accounts where they direct most of the traffic to cut me out. Makes sense really.

The other option is to charge upfront to be a mentor. So if someone wants you to teach them a method that will make them $30,000 for that year, you could charge $10,000 for the training.

Problem with that is most don't have that kind of money when they are starting out, hence why they need a mentor in the first place.

The last option is one I get all the time, people begging me to teach them in exchange for them working for me. Problem with this is, why would someone want to teach you to compete against them for some simple administrative work when they can hire someone on craigslist for $8 an hour?, or if it's BS work $4 an hour from an overseas staffing company? You can argue "because it's free labor" but anyone really making a ton of cash could care less about paying $8 an hour.

I think you have a good idea with getting a few newcomers to the game together and pooling your time and effort. I just don't think anyone who can really offer you value is going to mentor you. At best you'll get offers from people who want to use you for free work and never really "teach" you anything, so be careful in what deals you make.
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Nevarc,
I can see your point. I have done that same thing in the mortgage industry...(And the LO I trained.took my contact list and methods for finding potential clients and went on to open his own shop. He is now out "Training other LO's" and even has a book out." What I do know is that while he was with our company he used what I taught him and made me more money than I would have made had I not taken the time to train him.

What I can offer to the right mentor is that I will practice duplication of efforts. Whatever technique I learn, I will apply two fold ...whatever I am doing for "My mentor and I to split" so there will be a minimum of two for of each technique used. Also, I will apply for affiliate accounts under the mentor so they will also generate residual there from my efforts.

I would offer a 50/50 split for 6 months, and then a decreasing 75/25 for the balance of the year.

Ideally, I would incorporate to take advantage of various tax breaks, but these are the details which would be discussed with the person and I if we decide it would be mutually beneficial.
I apprecaite the compliment on the N00b Team, I will put more thought into it and then post what I come up with.
If any noobs have any ideas regarding the MasterMind alliance for IMnoobs, please feel free to IM me @ synergistic2001 on AIM.

Thanks,

C2comm
 
Why would you offer these methods to a noob and split it 50/50 when you could simply do it all yourself...?
 
cashsalute said:
Why would you offer these methods to a noob and split it 50/50 when you could simply do it all yourself...?
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I am a noob, and I am offering that because 50% of my earnings for 6 months is worth it to me to have the ability to generate money for a longer period. And the two main reasons, that from following, I learn best. And secondly, I would make it less likely that I get my accounts banned. It would be like learning during school, from a teacher which I have adapted to.

Thanks,
 
idenguy said:
I am a noob, and I am offering that because 50% of my earnings for 6 months is worth it to me to have the ability to generate money for a longer period. And the two main reasons, that from following, I learn best. And secondly, I would make it less likely that I get my accounts banned. It would be like learning during school, from a teacher which I have adapted to.

Thanks,
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Why would this appeal to the mentor, they could simply use the techniques them self and reap 100% without any competition?

sure I'll mentor you for free... RIGHT NOW!.... check it out...

You need a product, you need to market the product. what kind of product? Any! there is millions of affiliate programs out there, you pick one.

how do you market it? You target traffic that is similar to that product... for instance, your on a blackhat forum... so what would you try to sell here? hmm, maybe black hat related stuff?

There you go. You learned the secrets of the trade.
 
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