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Starting from scratch

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by MrJackson, Mar 6, 2017.

  1. MrJackson

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    Hi guys let me introduce myself. As you can see, Im registered to this forum for quite some time, but never actually posted anything. I was always kinda interested in online marketing & earning, but never devoted myself to it. Now, 6 yrs later I realized I just lost the time. I could have started building something years ago, but I didn't... So, one of my first questions is:

    Is it too late for someone new in this?

    I see that theres a lot of competition. Some people succeed, some fail just like in any area. My initial strategy would be to build a site and feed it with content then try to pull some traffic, ads and start from there. Is this the most simple start assuming that I have (found) a good niche. I also have some questions:

    1) What is considered a good monthly search for a keyword or phrase? (100k, 200k, <100k?)

    2) For someone beginning with IM, but very tech savy, is it the most basic start with a site I mentioned above and quality content?

    3) Are Google keyword numbers correct and relevant?

    Im not bad with programming, linux, etc. Is this an advantage or it's irrelevant? And at last, beside the advice I'll hear from you Im also willing to offer my skills for tips or anything that could be of use to me in this journey!

    Thank You and hope to hear some good replies :)
     
  2. Nikola Gligorijevic

    Nikola Gligorijevic Regular Member

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    No, it's not late.
    1) There is no good monthly search, it heavily depends on your competition, if you have no competition even 1.5k< keywords are good to get some profit
    2) You need to do what you think you should, you can start with site, social promoting etc.. it's up to you
    3) No, use keyword research tools for keyword reasearch
    Good luck and never give up :)
     
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  3. Billy_Batts

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    I know how you feel, If if was busy with bs 10 years ago I could have had an empire by now but hey, looking in the past is unfortunately not going to help us.

    And although everything has become a LOT harder it is certainly never too late!

    For IM it really doesn't matter which OS you have, it's all about using your brain, think out of the box and learn and adapt. So far I've read tons of failing projects simply because people weren't thinking or thinking to lightly.

    Your other questions I am learning myself ATM.

    1: Learning myself

    2:Yes plus growing social media accounts

    3: Idk.

    Keep at it.
     
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  4. Ryukil

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    How are things much harder than they used to be? My cousin used to post on here, was apparently making 15k a month back in 2009. Was it much easier back then to make money with CPA (that's the main thing he was doing, I think)?I've tried to get involved in IM multiple times over the years but was always distracted by something else. Now, at 23, I'm really going to try my best to build up a business.
     
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  5. stalin88

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    It was easier back then for people just entering the again. You slap up some adsense code and find a niche, do some links and within 3-4 weeks you could be making couple hundred dollars. And that is after couple of weeks on BHW. But again if you put some effort into it, its just as easy to make money now as it was then. There are a lot more tools now then there were back then. And if you really spend time on it, its far easier to make alot more money now in a short amount of time then it was back then. There are two reasons. The first is social media. The second even in SEO, Google is updating its search results faster than it was then. Before it could months for results to get updated.
     
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    1- Never later.
    2- How about 400? it's all depends on niche and competition, going out for the toughest terms is not your ideal start.
    3- Yes, don't get hang up on the nitty gritty details, just get something out there, even a simple page with a pic to promote. You will learn a lot faster than reading someone's wizzi wozzi methods.
    4- No, yes. Google keywords are for advertisers. They are never there to give SEO's the best keywords to target or even low hanging fruits. Get data from sites such as Semrush or Href - get a Fiverr report for your target niche until you have some income to warrant signing up/
     
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  7. MrJackson

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    Ive seen that a lot of people talk about spending money in SEO. Is this one of the things they mean by it? Spend on reports or something that will actually give back some actual information to build a strategy on?
    Im starting with the site for my firm Im actually building and theres basically no monthly searches for the name of the firm. So it would be a good start to learn to pull traffic from FB lets say, and learn how to rank it up on Google.
    Beside that Im going to start my own page with a niche as I said...I think its going to be some content site, still not sure...

    Also thank you for other keyword search engines, I also find a few more. Do you suggest to spend money on them for their services? I suppose the answer is Yes?
    And does this seem like a nice starting path with the sites I mentioned above?

    Tnx
     
  8. Billy_Batts

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    SEO or Search Engine Optimization is a little bit more than reports and backlinks from fb.

    Hell, before I read the IM forums for me SEO meant having the right keywords to rank. But SEO is so much more complex, keywords, SERP, tier 1, 2, 3 backlinks, research competitor keywords and backlinks, it's a lot!

    Everything else I got, design skills, social engineering skills, creativity, thinking ahead but haven't started anything yet because I'm learning SEO every day till I know enough to start.

    Most experienced marketers use tools like semrush but those have crazy high pricing at $99,- per month and that's only the starter package.

    But I believe there are cheaper tools but they usually do separate jobs, you can find this for free on the Internet.
    SEO powersuite 2016 (on dl sites)
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    Works great so far and found a nulled scrapebox but haven't test it out yet.