Starting a Channel

NoExcuses · Apr 11, 2019

So I have a channel with 4k subscribers and 3 million views but they came from doing an experiment with music. Of course I wasn't able to get accepted for monetization so i stopped using it. However after seeing some channels and reading some threads on here, it has inspired me to reopen up the channel.

1st Idea - I can change the niche of the channel from music to a "how to" type channel. I was planning on teaching others how to start and grow a youtube channel. I would start up a youtube series on growth tips and even start a new channel to showcase the results. The new channel would be about MMO and the 2 channels wouldnt be connected except through the series.

2nd Idea - Change the music niche to the "MMO' niche I wanted to start on the new channel but instead on the grown channel. It would be much easier to monetize and since the subscribers are a bit active some of them may give the new channel theme a shot. I was planning on making videos about journeys on new ventures I would take, talk about crypto, r/beermoney topics, and even some topics from BHW. Of course credit always doing where credit is due.

3rd Idea - This idea would be keep it a music channel but find workarounds and try to monetize it a different way, or to turn it into a compilation channel since the foundation has already been built.
I have to admit that I have already started on the 1st idea. I made a video on how to start a youtube channel, made the channel, bought art for it, and made a video. Currently the channel has 0 subscribers and 0 views, as i was just trying to get a video up for the "main" channel. If i do choose to continue on the first idea, I already have some thoughts in mind on how to get it to their first 1k subs and how to get passive views.

If anyone has experience with growing a mmo channel/ music channel/ or even how to channel, could you explain why you chose what you chose? They are seem to have tough competition but i believe with hard work and consistency and a few twists on traffic, any of these could become popular over time.

feelfreeto · Apr 11, 2019

I have an MMO channel that I started in September 2017. Now I am at almost 9k subs (100% white hat). I have a bit more 100 videos. I am getting about 1k views a day. The channel stopped growing in views since last 6 months or so even though I keep uploading regularly (about 1 video a week). Only subs are growing about 500 subs per month. My main topic is affiliate marketing. I do make money, but not that much. I miss a system or a highly profitable product that would be bringing me a steady income consistently.

If you will go into MMO niche (or pretty much any other niche) I highly recommend you to narrow it down and stick to one narrow niche. For example, it can be crypto only OR mmo methods, OR dropshipping, OR affiliate marketing, etc. If it's a "how to grow on youtube" niche, then stick to that. This way you will have a highly engaged and focused audience.

I have nothing to say about music channel niche.

If you have any questions - shoot.

NoExcuses · Apr 11, 2019

feelfreeto said:
I have an MMO channel that I started in September 2017. Now I am at almost 9k subs (100% white hat). I have a bit more 100 videos. I am getting about 1k views a day. The channel stopped growing in views since last 6 months or so even though I keep uploading regularly (about 1 video a week). Only subs are growing about 500 subs per month. My main topic is affiliate marketing. I do make money, but not that much. I miss a system or a highly profitable product that would be bringing me a steady income consistently.

If you will go into MMO niche (or pretty much any other niche) I highly recommend you to narrow it down and stick to one narrow niche. For example, it can be crypto only OR mmo methods, OR dropshipping, OR affiliate marketing, etc. If it's a "how to grow on youtube" niche, then stick to that. This way you will have a highly engaged and focused audience.

I have nothing to say about music channel niche.

If you have any questions - shoot.

How do you mainly get traffic? Is it doing seo and ranking your videos? Do you use ig, Twitter, tumblr, Pinterest? Do you have a website for your channel? Do you have a Facebook page or group? Maybe even a discord? Would any of these help engage and enhance a growing community?

feelfreeto · Apr 11, 2019

1. In the beginning I was getting mainly suggested and search. Now about half of my traffic is search. In most cases I was doing keyword research before shooting a video so I was creating content for what people are searching. I do the rest of the optimization (title, description, tags, etc.), but when you are small (and even when you are big) it's more like hit-or-miss. So if you perfectly optimized video is not ranking well, you can of course play around with the thumbnail, title and description, but the chances that it will not help much are pretty high. Trying to rank a website in Google makes much more sense to me than a video on Yt.

Most of my views are coming from just 2 videos that are ranking high for decent keywords. I did nothing special about those videos to rank them. I'd say I did waaaaay more about other videos trying to rank them but they never ranked or even got silly couple hundreds of views and "died". So as I said it's more like hit-or-miss that's why my recommendation is to just do your keyword research and pump out the content regularly.

2. I don't use any of the social media except Facebook. But even facebook - I do have a page, but don't use it really. Just uploaded less than 10 videos mixing native fb vids and youtube links. I tried to publish my videos in the groups on fb, but the quality of the viewers were pretty low in MMO so I stopped.

3. I do have a website with landing pages to collect leads and build the email list. I don't publish content. Even though I am sure that having a blog along with your videos is a good thing to do.

4. Fb page yes, group no. But I'd say if you are ready to admin and maintain a fb group then by all means go ahead and do that. It will increase the engagement and loyalty with your audience. Just be ready for the army of spammers and sneaky ass bitches trying to squeeze in their affiliate links to all sorts of tools/products/courses etc. I was witnessing that in another mmo group.

5. What I think I failed is to grow a community around my channel. I think it would help a lot. I was just thinking it would take way more time than it would be giving back in terms of sales. But if I had a certain system or my own product, then of course I would build a community around the channel.

I think facebook group is the best thing to build the community because people can interact not only with you, but with each other as well. Then I can recommend Instagram stories (that's what I was thinking about). It will work well if you are resourceful and knowledgeable enough to pump out DAILY content in addition to your youtube channel. And then daily emails of great value to your email subscribers.

NoExcuses · Apr 11, 2019

feelfreeto said:
1. In the beginning I was getting mainly suggested and search. Now about half of my traffic is search. In most cases I was doing keyword research before shooting a video so I was creating content for what people are searching. I do the rest of the optimization (title, description, tags, etc.), but when you are small (and even when you are big) it's more like hit-or-miss. So if you perfectly optimized video is not ranking well, you can of course play around with the thumbnail, title and description, but the chances that it will not help much are pretty high. Trying to rank a website in Google makes much more sense to me than a video on Yt.

Most of my views are coming from just 2 videos that are ranking high for decent keywords. I did nothing special about those videos to rank them. I'd say I did waaaaay more about other videos trying to rank them but they never ranked or even got silly couple hundreds of views and "died". So as I said it's more like hit-or-miss that's why my recommendation is to just do your keyword research and pump out the content regularly.

2. I don't use any of the social media except Facebook. But even facebook - I do have a page, but don't use it really. Just uploaded less than 10 videos mixing native fb vids and youtube links. I tried to publish my videos in the groups on fb, but the quality of the viewers were pretty low in MMO so I stopped.

3. I do have a website with landing pages to collect leads and build the email list. I don't publish content. Even though I am sure that having a blog along with your videos is a good thing to do.

4. Fb page yes, group no. But I'd say if you are ready to admin and maintain a fb group then by all means go ahead and do that. It will increase the engagement and loyalty with your audience. Just be ready for the army of spammers and sneaky ass bitches trying to squeeze in their affiliate links to all sorts of tools/products/courses etc. I was witnessing that in another mmo group.

5. What I think I failed is to grow a community around my channel. I think it would help a lot. I was just thinking it would take way more time than it would be giving back in terms of sales. But if I had a certain system or my own product, then of course I would build a community around the channel.

I think facebook group is the best thing to build the community because people can interact not only with you, but with each other as well. Then I can recommend Instagram stories (that's what I was thinking about). It will work well if you are resourceful and knowledgeable enough to pump out DAILY content in addition to your youtube channel. And then daily emails of great value to your email subscribers.

Regarding your channel, was it more towards videos showcasing apps/websites that you can earn an online income with or was it more showcasing a specific way i.e shopify, Amazon, etc. And did you ever make a journey type video showcasing one of the methods you talked about? Also thanks so much for that help, the ig story thing does sound like it could work.

feelfreeto · Apr 11, 2019

I was doing somewhat journey videos at the start of my channel, it was good for engagement of the audience but they were not very good in terms of views. Only the most loyal subscribers were watching that. Even though if the journey video was on an interesting/popular topic, then it was ok. But what did work well was a real life case studies/journeys of certain methods/tools/approaches etc. Even if you fail people still want to watch it. So it's a good idea. But most of my videos are educational how-to videos on affiliate marketing and something related to mmo.

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