That is pretty much the main drawback to using spun content on a PBN. You are risking getting manually reviewed and having your PBN taken down.
spun content just doesn't work
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That is pretty much the main drawback to using spun content on a PBN. You are risking getting manually reviewed and having your PBN taken down.
To be truly unique-looking, you need to have different sentence sizes, to sometimes include or exclude sentences and to sometimes omit whole paragraphs.
Assuming that Google is getting smarter, this just makes sense.
{Hello|Hi|Hey} all mean the same thing and Google are beginning to know it.
Clever spinning is important. Here's an example of how to lay it out properly:
{{Sentence one is about sentences|Sentences are the topic of sentence one}{|, and it has some interesting ideas}}{.|!|...}{|{Sentence two is more information about sentence one{|, so it's just adding information about sentences{| that could be useful{| (but all of this could be excluded if you look closely at the spintax)}}}}{.|!|...}}
Notice that I haven't even spun the words yet, just the sentences. It's a lot more work, but it give you many times more uniqueness and can be used for much longer.
Good luck!
Assuming that Google is getting smarter, this just makes sense.
{Hello|Hi|Hey} all mean the same thing and Google are beginning to know it.
Clever spinning is important. Here's an example of how to lay it out properly:
{{Sentence one is about sentences|Sentences are the topic of sentence one}{|, and it has some interesting ideas}}{.|!|...}{|{Sentence two is more information about sentence one{|, so it's just adding information about sentences{| that could be useful{| (but all of this could be excluded if you look closely at the spintax)}}}}{.|!|...}}
Notice that I haven't even spun the words yet, just the sentences. It's a lot more work, but it give you many times more uniqueness and can be used for much longer.
Good luck!
fc-dh
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Exactly, it isn't an SEO ranking thing, it is when you get flagged for manual reviewing, it is real easy to spot the PBN with spun content, and if you're serious on securing your PBN, then content is the first thing you should be looking at
LeanLow
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One has to be extremely stupid to not know how to tell a "legit site" from a PBN site. You can't make a PBN site look like a normal site without spending at least few hundred bucks worth of resources (including time) on each of them. Google reviewers are not stupid, and making a site to look legitable to a point where a trained google reviewer could not tell that it's a PBN site is not feasible
fc-dh
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It isn't that hard to build a PBN site that doesn't look like a PBN site, and yes you need to invest some cash into your PBN, but creating real sites doesn't have to cost hundreds of dollars, you can build a good looking site for under $100-, let me break it down for you.
- Domain & hosting $25-
- Theme is free. $0-
- PDS files for logo are free to find. $0-
- Images are free $0
- Content 20 articles $2.50- $50
- 3 social network accounts with some (fake) followers and videos $10-
- Creating and adding (fake) ads $0-
- Creating and adding a email collector $0-
So there you go, $85- per PBN site, you can do it cheaper if you have your articles rewritten, you would be paying $35- for 20 articles on Odesk, not the best content but good enough to pass manual review, but to be fair sometimes domains are more expensive.
So there is no need to put in "at least few hundred bucks" to build a PBN site that will pass any manual review, i don't know where you spent that money on, but it isn't necessary at all, or you could just keep on using that shitty content from Word AI and be surprised why Google is constantly deindexing your PBN's
Your choice....
fc-dh
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Okay if you say so
LeanLow
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It's not worth spending a few hours per day trying to make them look real, for me it's better to spend my time making more $.
Jack Torrance
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Please let me know which service you use to create human spun articles. It truly is a nightmare to create them.
Jack Torrance
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The only thing is that you certainly aren't getting good content for $2.50. In fact, I'd say the stuff on iWriter is just as poor as spun articles. Sorry but 99.99999999999999999% of non-native speakers just write pure gobbledygook and real natives don't spend their days knocking out articles for $5.00 as far as I can tell. But all writers love to abuse the term "native" anyway, then give you something that reads like: "hi sir please you like these kebabs. Kebabs are good meat for you meat in your insides yes."
To be honest even some of my American born-and-bred buddies can't write that well and produce articles with grammatical errors and a lot of repetition. I still have to iron out the creases for them before anything goes live. I mean what they produce is worth paying for but if a true native even makes errors then you can see the issue when you hop over to iWriter and let someone from godknowswhereistan produce "quality writings for you".
In my opinion that is $50 that might as well be thrown down the toilet.
I really wonder how many people here know where the Artificial Intelligence is standing as far as R&D is concerned. It is far ahead than the usual spun crap that we generate. if WordAI can create excellent rewrites at sentence level without human intervention, i am quite sure Google can be better. Even if the article is copyscape and grammarly passed, but with spun content the issue is the theme of the article. The theme remains same for all the articles whichever way it is spun. And i have seen definite reason to believe that spun content is one of the main reasons for PBN de-indexation or at least it makes it faster.
When 50 of your backlinks are coming from articles/blogposts which have the same theme (copyscape passed or not) then Google do not even need to send in a manual reviewer to see your backlinks, it can be a completely automated process.
When 50 of your backlinks are coming from articles/blogposts which have the same theme (copyscape passed or not) then Google do not even need to send in a manual reviewer to see your backlinks, it can be a completely automated process.
fc-dh
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I never use Iwriter so i can't comment on that
It will take some effort to find these writers that can do readable content, but they are there, i have 4 writers that write decent content for 2.50-, (even cheaper when i let them rewrite PLR articles) it took a view hours to post jobs and interview them, have them write a small piece of content of 250 words as part of the interview This is also a good method to find cheap writers
The content doesn't have to be great at all, if Google was to ban all content that was written they would have a purge at least 50% of their index, also most manual reviewers are from third world countries who barley have grasp on the English language, but there is always WordAI, a sure thing for getting your PBN sites tanked.
fc-dh
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I really don't think Google is anywere near a AI that can read, calculate in al languages if the grammar is correct and rank it accordingly, the massive amount of processing power is so big that the cost would not benefit the shareholders, so propaganda is cheaper, it has been the working concept of Google since the early days of blackhat, everybody that does a decent amount of testing knows this.
conrulez
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LMFAO....You have absolutely NO CLUE what you are rambling on about. Google has NOWHERE near the ability to determine what a human determines to be "good" content vs. "bad". OF COURSE a manual reviewer can see it. That's a HUMAN. The Algo? Not even fucking close. You do not understand the computational power needed. You are thinking in small, one on one terms. And you talk about the "theme" of the article. That's hilarious. Did the thought occur to you that some people are actually smart enough to not just spin "one" article and use it over and over? LOL...The fact that some people have no idea how to use spun content doesn't make it bad. It makes them shitty at it. Some people couldn't make money with PPC advertising if you gave them an unlimited budget. Others can routinely make 5 to 10 times their money. Same principle.
Content is not "good" or "bad" in itself. It all DEPENDS ON YOUR PURPOSE. If you are trying to engage readers, keep them on your site, sign up for a list, etc.. then YES, of course you need decent content. If however your only purpose is to get someone to click on an ad or link (or to forward them there yourself with a cloaker, etc.), or get links to a money or tiered site, then the content is STRICTLY for the search engines and really meaningless to the user. In that case all that counts is how does google handle that content.
Google does all it can to scare people and spread propaganda. And they do it well as evidenced by the HUGE number of people in a blackhat forum who are scared shitless to use spun content. LMAO...Some of us not only use it, we use it well, we use it often, and we make money with it day after day after day.
Those who say it can't be done, shouldn't talk shit about those who are doing it!
Jumbuck1976
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Spun content is fine for what it's for - SEO articles and on tiers 2, 3 and 4. It's never going to convert sales, you shouldn't expect it to.