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Spinning? Urgh..

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by happywarrior, Nov 1, 2011.

  1. happywarrior

    happywarrior Registered Member

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    Hey guys please help me understand this.. :eek:

    I went paragraph first adding 2 new paragraphs, sentence second adding 2 new sentences, synonyms third adding 5 new synonyms where possible.

    I've spent about 4 hours spinning a 500 word article and when I go to 'spin' the article in SpinnerChief I must be getting the settings wrong or something because I'm only getting around 60% after spinning 15 articles..

    I have the settings as create 15 articles - use original words when spin - and randomy use thesaurus.

    Does this sound right?? Am I using the 'spinning' options wrong? Or does 60% from 15 articles sound good??

    I'm brand new to spinning and I hear about guys getting 500 unique articles.. Does this mean even though they're unique a lot wouldn't pass copyscape?

    Am I trying to do something which other article marketers don't do? Maybe I'm a bit too worried about Google finding duplicate content, because I don't want to get penalised for putting duplicate stuff out there..

    I'm planning to blast these articles directly to my money site using Article Marketing Robot.

    Thanks for your help - much appreciated. :)
     
  2. jass11

    jass11 Elite Member

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    yeps 60% is quite good :)

    it checks it in this way
    { word/sentence/paragraph|word2/sentence2/paragraph2}
    if you check its uniqueness for 2 variations then it will be 100% unique.
     
  3. link-package

    link-package Junior Member

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    your spun articles would be less than 60% unique unless you spin word by word (not phrase). I try to spin my article to min 70%. Sometimes I go as high as 90+% if I do sentence spinning as well.
     
  4. happywarrior

    happywarrior Registered Member

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    OK. So how do I know how many article directories I can successfully submit this to as unique? And should I ignore the fact that Spinnerchief says it's above 50% for copyscape?

    Confused
     
  5. Expertpeon

    Expertpeon Elite Member

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    Just FYI, paragraph spinning is not that valuable vs the work involved.

    If you want a high uniqueness, readability and a lower amount of work, here's how its done:
    Create highly mixable sentences (don't use lots of big words that have few synonyms) and write an article... this takes about 10 minutes or less.
    For each sentence replace it 5-10 times (whatever you can stand and however much you intend to use the thing... if you want 1000 articles to be indexed, spin it 5 times at this level... 5000 articles+ spin it 7-10 times)
    Be sure that each sentence is totally diff in spacing and word placement:
    Example:
    The best and most helpful guide on starting your own company is, by all respected opinion, the guide by Schaum.
    Here's 5 sentences that are 100% unique from each other:
    {The best and most helpful guide on starting your own company is, by all respected opinion, the guide by Schaum.|Schaum's guide, which is widely regarded as the best and most helpful, is an excellent resource to start your own company|Starting your own company can be daunting, but helpful and respected guides like Schaum's can make it feel easy.|Facing down the need to start your own company, many turn to guides, with the best and most well-regarded being Schaum's outline.|Critics and the general population agree that starting your own business can be significantly simplified by Schaum's guide, which is by far the best.}

    You then take the above and run it with synonyms. do not run around doing synonyms for workds like "your" or something dumb... be sure that the words you are replacing MAKE SENSE and sound GRAMMATICALLY correct.

    There... that's a 150%-200% unique article... and you can do it (with the quick replace tool) in less than 2 hours.
    You can get it indexed roughly 5000 times or more... dependent upon the level of sentence replacements you do.

     
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  6. Heatz

    Heatz Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    "I've spent about 4 hours spinning a 500 word article"

    Dude... In those 4 hours you could have written at least 10 good unique 450-500 words articles by yourself.

    Rule of thumb. Work smart not hard (If you can avoid it and it's not necessary)

    Hope I helped you get a little into a better path.
     
  7. Dan Da Man

    Dan Da Man Elite Member Premium Member

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    That is not dumb you are dumb. He is spinning it so that he can get more then 10 articles. 10 articles isn't going to do anything unless you put in on your site. The point is to get thousands of unique articles pointing at your site. So ten articles in four hours is a waste because you could also just scrape the articles and spin them. Come on! Work smart not hard :)
     
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  8. Heatz

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    :O Did you felt attacked?
     
  9. Dan Da Man

    Dan Da Man Elite Member Premium Member

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    Yes, I am devastated. I am just correcting you because you are wrong and your trying to tell someone that what they were doing was dumb. So, just correcting you :) Are you feeling attacked?
     
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  10. happywarrior

    happywarrior Registered Member

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    Wow..

    Well at first I felt attacked, but then didn't feel so stupid after all while I kep scrolling down. :D
     
  11. Rubix101

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    Wow, 4 hours to spin one 500 word article- you need to outsource that shit quick man. 60% is perfect, and I sincerely doubt other guys are getting 500 unique articles out of one clip. Unless they're doing it in 5 languages that many articles ain't gonna happen.
     
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  12. Moogle!

    Moogle! Regular Member

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    It takes me about 20 minutes to make one and I create about 200 spun articles a month.

    I use 16 paragraphs for each spun article. (4x4x4x4)

    Average unique rates:
    AMR - 400%
    SENukeX - 50%

    Perhaps I should make a video tutorial one day, when I have time. :)
     
  13. Expertpeon

    Expertpeon Elite Member

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    Nothing about this post is true.
    I have articles that have 10 replacement sentences + 2 replacement paragraphs + 60% of all words replaced with an average of 4 synonyms and they are <200% in AMR
     
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    Moogle! Regular Member

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    Expert: Give me a keyword and I'll show you my spin. :)
     
  15. Moogle!

    Moogle! Regular Member

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    I PM'd you the spintax so you can check it out yourself. :D

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  16. Expertpeon

    Expertpeon Elite Member

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    Seems like you have found an error in the # in AMR, not a trick to make things more unique.
    If your SEnuke uniqueness is 50% it's probably that...