Spamdexing: how does it work and how to make it doable ?

stallion45d said:
Do you mean the cached version?. All the internal pages are under the noarchive attribute.

A friend of mine is totally obsessed into discovering all the shortcuts of this Network. Putting many hours on it.
He has developed the scripts , but every day new things come Up.

It does not Matter what Word of the dictionary + main keyword you do a query for, a domain of this Network Will turn Up. Impressive, I must say. We are already doing tests with a 7 yo clean domain I own .

Another thing we worry about is indexing the links. I tried speedlinks for another spammy project and after 17 days, results are way far from expected, being honest. Any tips for the indexing part?
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Indexing is the most difficult part. I tried Omega indexer for one of my projects recently and there is no sign of indexing even after 10 days. All links are clean web 2.0s with unique content. I've tried spamdexing for a few links and they've worked. But it's a lot of work if I had to manually post each link in comments. You can try GSA or Scrapebox comment poster. Most of the spammy niches like pharma completely rely on comments for indexing.
 
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Starblazer said:
Indexing is the most difficult part. I tried Omega indexer for one of my projects recently and there is no sign of indexing even after 10 days. All links are clean web 2.0s with unique content. I've tried spamdexing for a few links and they've worked. But it's a lot of work if I had to manually post each link in comments. You can try GSA or Scrapebox comment poster. Most of the spammy niches like pharma completely rely on comments for indexing.
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Thank you very much for your reply. I've got GSA indexer ( apart of GSA ser + gsa captcha breaker) . Gsa indexer does not really work for spammy links. Do you think SER Will do the job?
 
Submit a sitemap and let gg index everything naturally. That's what I do. It may be slow but it's steady.
To give you an idea concerning my last splog they indexed about 10k urls in 3 weeks which is not bad. But if you have a massive website with hundred thousands urls maybe you should use a more efficient method.
 
stallion45d said:
Thank you very much for your reply. I've got GSA indexer ( apart of GSA ser + gsa captcha breaker) . Gsa indexer does not really work for spammy links. Do you think SER Will do the job?
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I've used SER recently and got some of my links indexed. If you can get comment and forum links, they'll be indexed. The redirects are useless imo.
 
ok, so first tests are on the way. We used a 7 years old clean domain I have. We already got the home indexed in matter days and created a few internal php pages. and created a landing page . But we are facing the first problem:

we redirected the whole site via a 302 temporary redirect to the landing page. If we search our domain name in google, the info that we see in the snippet is the description of the landing page instead of the home itself.

any inputs? would it be better to use a meta refresh with 0 seconds on it?
what is the best a way to keep the own domain descriptions in google snippets ?
 
stallion45d said:
ok, so first tests are on the way. We used a 7 years old clean domain I have. We already got the home indexed in matter days and created a few internal php pages. and created a landing page . But we are facing the first problem:

we redirected the whole site via a 302 temporary redirect to the landing page. If we search our domain name in google, the info that we see in the snippet is the description of the landing page instead of the home itself.

any inputs? would it be better to use a meta refresh with 0 seconds on it?
what is the best a way to keep the own domain descriptions in google snippets ?
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Code: 
if(isGoogleBot()){
    include 'content.php';
}
else{
    header('Location: http://www.yoursite.com/landing-page.html', true, 302);
}
 
Actually this still works pretty well...
It's mostly like:
* Scraping keywords
* Generating content with Markov kind of algoritms or better but much slower: AI tools.
* a good cloaker.
* using expired domains
* generating xxxxxxxxx pages
* getting deindexed a lot
* generating new domains all the time.
 
hi again, we need plenty of pic files to make our pages look legit to google eyes. Could anyone point where to download a zip file which contains hundreds of small sized pics?
 
you need to scrape images so you have fresh images and not always the same.
can be automated i did this too, there are many image sharing sites, just look for some with CC images so you dont risk getting DMCA claims.
 
itz_styx said:
you need to scrape images so you have fresh images and not always the same.
can be automated i did this too, there are many image sharing sites, just look for some with CC images so you dont risk getting DMCA claims.
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We Will use "noarchive" , so dont expect anyone to be able to track the images , unless they search on Google images. I Guess the average Joe can't recognize a spamdexing Network to go to G Images and investigate it
 
Once more , I want to thank all the BHW members who are replying to contribute on this thread.
My friend and I are on the right track by following your tips
 
stallion45d said:
We Will use "noarchive" , so dont expect anyone to be able to track the images , unless they search on Google images. I Guess the average Joe can't recognize a spamdexing Network to go to G Images and investigate it
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still google can see that you use all the same images. if its for a few sites its ok but not when you use it on hundreds or thousands. you still want to make it look like its unique.
 
stallion45d said:
Hi, while doing some keyword research for a specific niche, I accidentally found a huge "network" of spamdexing hitting google pretty hard for a big amount of keywords. Some details about its structure:

- thousands of expired domains . Each domain contains 500 - 2500 internal php pages. Everything is redirected with 302 temporary redirect ( used redirectdetective.com to check this) to another domain which kinda acts as a doorway for a second , and then finally all the traffic ends up on a popular affiliate network. You can´t really see the content of any of the internal php pages. But the text appearing on the snippet is totally junk, unrelated and unreadable. So no way they are ranking because of quality content.

- All the domains are hosted in cloudfare ( I guess they are using the free plan ,otherwise hosting all those domains will be costly) . Used hostingchecker.com to get this info

- They target low competition keywords on this niche, even for some query searches, they rank with 8 or 9 different domains.
- using webrate.org says that they get 25.000 UVs / day in total.
- I tried to download / scrape internal links / check html or php code of a few of these domains and nothing comes in. Not using scrapebox or similar software.

first I would like to congratulate the people behind this , for laughing at google this way . At least, they have been doing this method for the last 3 years , by checking the registration date of their main domain collecting all the traffic at the end.

now, here comes the big question for the SEO experts on the forum:

how to do Spamdexing , this way , without being screwed by google ?
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Without an example is difficult to say.

What I found and may be this case is that Google is eating old early 00s cloaking like a champ now as the result of new 100% JS based websites.

Google runs 2 types of Crawlers... The normal that parse pure HTML and the Caffeine that is a Google Chrome headless browser that requires execute the JS and parses the rendered HTML

So Google has 2 versions of one website page, the one you see when you right click View Source, and the one that you are when you open the Chrome Console and inspect the rendered HTML

So the magic happens on any of those versions... Probably a redirect by detection user Agent serverside before render the pure HTML part. And then content that ranks may be the JS rendered that you don’t see because the redirection
 
First test is ok. We even managed to outrank for a few keywords the Network mentioned on this thread. But we wont compete with It , so Big and costly. Looking to improve the script that creates the sites.

We found a domain of this guys which did not have the noarchive attribute on it, so we could checked His structure, which is much simple than we thought
 
Few things learned already: duplicated content ranks.
- shitty quality no sense content , ranks

Then i would rather put money on spamdexing than building a single site and paying 10-8 usd per article
 
stallion45d said:
Few things learned already: duplicated content ranks.
- shitty quality no sense content , ranks

Then i would rather put money on spamdexing than building a single site and paying 10-8 usd per article
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It depends on how long you would like to rank on a single website :)
If you want to rank for years with a single website... Then quality usually wins...
Still no guarantee that your website will rank forever even when you follow all the guidelines...
If you can automate and scale it, spamdexing might work for you :-)
 
Ok, so our php creator is almost ready after some little changes. Nice theme for google with structured text, pics, vids, interlinking and so on. But we still have a doubt about were to place the redirecting script.
Will you do the cloacking on the http config with an exception for the google robot?
 
actually we have a very good cloaker ... we don't like messing this up ourselves...
 
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