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Some questions about on page seo and keywords

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by taketheride, Jul 3, 2015.

  1. taketheride

    taketheride Junior Member

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    I'm a bit confused, and these questions might be basic, but I can't find an answer.

    1. When we talk about keyword density and usage, is that exact match only? If my main keyword is "best microwave ovens", but I also wish to target "microwave oven best" and "the greatest microwave oven".

    One of the secondary keywords is the same as the main one, but with singular instead of plural and the words re-ordered, and the other one is also the same, but using synonyms instead. Say you wanted to include all of these keywords on the same page, would you try writing 1% keyword density for each of these three? My guess is no, but then would you do 1% keyword density for the main keyword and then just include the other two somewhere in the article? Or would the two secondary keywords be included in the ranking automatically when just using the main one in the article, because they are so closely related? The last thing I can think of is to have a 1% keyword density of all these three combined?

    Please don't get hung up on the "1%" as this is just an example to illustrate what I mean.

    2. How do you use awkward keywords in h1 page titles? Say your main keyword for the article is "tractor pedal for wife", would you try using this exact phrase in your h1 title? Or would it still work just as good if adding for example "best tractor pedal for your wife". The exact match keyword is then no longer completely connected in successive order, but separated by one word in between.

    3. Does singular and plural of the same keyword count together for the density? For example, would 1% of "tractor shoes" and 1% "tractor shoe" add up as 2% of this keyword, or count as separate?
     
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  2. Panther28

    Panther28 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    I find it mostly depends on the competitive of the niche nowadays, and the variety of the article titles in that niche.

    Google will test your article against all of your keyword variation terms over time, and adjust their rankings accordingly, and it takes a while (mostly months) before this settles down.

    I would advise taking a note of your keyword density, and targeted keyword, track your rankings in a ranking tracker for those keywords, and then check back in a few weeks to see what the correlation is, and what you can find or notice has happened with your previous expectations.
     
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    First I will go with the awkward keyword,I would like to use that one which starts from BEST and yes it will not be look like awkward.
    For exact match keyword,go in adwords and see the density of your related keywords and then pick what you like with good density.
     
  4. archon10

    archon10 BANNED BANNED

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    ugh this whole OP is wrong.

    There is no keyword density rule. Google has an entire team for synonyms and plurals. Forget about that. You don't need it and it will come naturally as you write. Just write naturally and write something that hasn't been done to death already.

    Don't just stick awkward shitty titles on your pages. You'll find that Google will just rewrite them anyway for search queries. Write interesting titles that entice users to click.
     
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    THUNDERELVI Elite Member

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    Here we go again, another clueless person on the forum. Actually, you are completely wrong!
     
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    archon10 BANNED BANNED

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    lol add keyword density to the list of fail SEOs. It's just like when an SEO tells someone that their site is sandboxed. They are failures. I'm thankful for you guys though because I come in and tear apart your supposed SEO and make money.

    Point to the Google guideline that says that you need some type of keyword density.
    And like I said, Google has an entire "synonyms" team. The whole concept of this crap is 2005 SEO junk.

    Get with the program.
     
  7. THUNDERELVI

    THUNDERELVI Elite Member

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    1. If you are still reading Google guidelines and following Mat Cutts, you are the fail.
    2. You can barely count to 5 (literally), let alone do SEO and make money, meaning you are either trolling or feeding your e-penis.
    Your thread here proves that.
    3. If keyword density does not matter, then please I BEG YOU, find me an example on Google of a website ranking for a keyword with 50% keyword density. You can't right?! That's what I thought. Take your shit out of this forum and stop spreading misinformation to new people just starting out.
     
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  8. archon10

    archon10 BANNED BANNED

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    I don't understand #3 point.

    But, don't get me wrong. I value you guys because I make money on your fail. So, hats off to you, sir.
     
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    What's there not to understand? You are saying keyword density does not matter. If that is true, it means I can go and stuff a keyword as many times as I want on a page and still rank with it, right? But the truth is there is NO website currently ranking like this. If you can find me one counter-example of a website with very high keyword density (let's say 50%+), you will prove me wrong. Otherwise, all the crap you just said is well... crap!
     
  10. Manjot kaur

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    on-page SEO factor. You also want to pay attention to where you place your keywords in your title. In general, the closer the keyword is to the beginning of the title tag, the more weight it has with search engines

    Keyword or identifier that has a particular meaning to the programming language