Some New Update for PBN?

hardcorebiker said:

And this is pure speculation by you without any data. Google can monitor dropped domains but it cannot monitor expiring/auction ones which takes a click ? Dont spread BS and conspiracy theories. In past few months, I have registered and hosted 800 domains on more than 50 hosts. I had like 8-10 deindexed and the only common denominator was I was using 1$ hosting named BlastPort. The funny thing was they only had a Hello World Post and nothing else. Domains which I had on Hostgator, Inmotion, Bluehost, Site5 etc are absolutely fine. The update has more got to do with IPs and shitty 1$ hosting according to me. I am not saying all 1$ hostings have been affected, but quite a few were hit.

And how about using multiquotes?

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You are terribly misinformed, and I'm sure you either missed or ignored the part of my post in red.

SEO Power said:

That's pure speculation, though it could be one of the reason because I think there are many reasons, one of which is expired/dropped domains. Only expired and dropped domains are used in PBNs, and Google can monitor all expired/dropped domains to see if they will be bought/re-registered.

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Btw, keep your forum usage suggestion to yourself until you become a moderator.

This is an ongoing war between seos and google. The best solution is to use your pbns as your money sites, in every way possible.

ok seriously no offence to prab966 here but WTF can someone PLEASE explain to me what he is saying here "I bet 20 pr4 doamins to you if google is able to find and deindex my 10 site pr5 .ca domain pbn. You are a rep manager @ onehour indexing and i not think if you go any experience in seo (if you might have experience then you might be not doing a 9-5 )-=- "

@SEO Power - you're wrong on so many levels I won't even try to explain. Google can't detect shit unless you make mistakes. And even if you make mistakes in most cases is too computationally demanding for google to be worth it.

@OP - Listening to experts will make you very dumb very fast. Most people with a blog are experts these days. To this day, there are only a handful of sites where I read good SEO advice, one of them being Moz which is so WH and biased that it hurts, but still has some good content. Most other good SEO advice I read was from blogs that have been unmaintained for years (e.g. BlueHatSeo.com).

How to know if some SEO advice you read is good or not:

1. If you understand more than 50% then is not great advice. I have written some very good guides in my time on BHW and one thing i noticed is if it becomes complex enough to be awesome, only a tiny number of people get it. I have seen here useless guides of simple methods get over 200 thanks and I have seen really great pieces of advice/guides that got 3 thanks and ended up buried in the forum. When I read bluehatseo.com I was already highly skilled in coding and tech stuff but on my 1st read I didn't understood more than 50% and most people who read that site didn't really got more than 20% of the info there.
2. If you've heard it in more than 3 places in that form (e.g. the method specifics) then there's a 90%+ chance it is crap.
3. If seems like a solid method that could make you good money but at the same time a method that would be affected by a huge number of people doing it, then is probably crap because is probably a) overdone, b) crap because otherwise the method owner would have not made it public.
4. If it requires no skills or little skills and promises high earnings, again is crap. These days good methods (especially SEO) require some good investments and skillset.
5. If is an easy method, then is crap (see point 3).
6. If is a standalone method and not a piece of a strategy, then is crap. Might work, but in the long run it dies.

OFC there are exceptions, but the points above cover over 95% of the methods and strategies known publicly online.

Another thing, SEO hasn't changed as a strategy since 2007. Same shit works. You just have to do it better and with a lot more moderation. That's when it comes to BH. For WH/long term, if people would spend their time getting in touch with others in the industry and developing relationships instead of trying to game google, they'd get a lot farther. 10 good relationships will get you farther than any method or BH stuff.

SEO Power said:

You are terribly misinformed, and I'm sure you either missed or ignored the part of my post in red.

Btw, keep your forum usage suggestion to yourself until you become a moderator.

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SEO Power said:

Not when they are all expired/dropped domain names.

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See the 2nd part of post which I quoted. Its not the first time you are being called out for posting inaccurate and misleading info. Only reason people are suggesting you to use multiquotes is it makes for better user experience. I mean no offence, I know you are trying to contribute but you come across as a posting bot and all you are doing is spreading bad rep for HKwhatever you are trying to promote.

Anyways lets keep this thread on topic and keep flame/ego wars aside will ya? Have a nice day

I haven't heard people talking about one of the most important thing, that is - anchor text that you are linking from your pbn ? Maybe if the new algo suspects that site might be an pbn it checks anchors and then makes a decision based on that, what you think ?

LeanLow said:

I haven't heard people talking about on of the most important thing, that is - anchor text that you are linking from your pbn ? Maybe if the new algo suspects that site might be an pbn it checks anchors and then makes a decision based on that, what you think ?

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Might be a factor, but then you would see much more widespread deindexing. It is probably a combination many things

Needless to say my PBN is doing just fine, haven't seen a single site (of over 700) get deindexed.

@SEO Power:

I cannot say what your motives are for making 1,298 posts in a little over two months,
but please slow down a bit. When a member makes that many posts in such a short
amount of time, it raises a red flag.

Thank You - "Wiz"

The only person I know who made shit ton of posts in the past was RushingWinds. This looks like a new record.

Eugh.. go take a run and jump SEO Power... Please stop talking nonsense as some poor newbie may see those almost instantly inflated stats of yours and assume you are actually talking sense... which would be a nightmare for the whole SEO community adding to the ever growing mountains of regurgitated horse shit, stop just stop

SEO Power said:

Because, let's be honest with ourselves, if Google wanted to deindex all the PBNs in existence today, they would.

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Why do people make stupid posts like this? When someone says this I assume they have no idea how to make a PBN.

SEO Power said:

Is that all?

Btw, this is the last time I'm going to respond to any critical post on this forum.

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You know it is pretty bad when Warrior Forum bans you...but hey, keep up the informative posts. More "content is king" and "build high quality links" replies please.

http://www.warriorforum.com/members/seo-power.html

netmoney1 said:

You know it is pretty bad when Warrior Forum bans you...but hey, keep up the informative posts. More "content is king" and "build high quality links" replies please.

http://www.warriorforum.com/members/seo-power.html

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SEO Power said:

Is that all?

Btw, this is the last time I'm going to respond to any critical post on this forum.

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I don't think anyone gives a flying fuck if you ever post again. I've read the previous page, and you clearly don't know what you're talking about.

My expired domains are still alive and well. The key is to not leave a footprint. If you do, not only will they eventually be deindexed but they also lose their link juice, http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-...ALL&S1=08682892&OS=PN/08682892&RS=PN/08682892

I'm a Newby in IM but my profession is in psychology. I think that changes are made by Google Each time it finds a trend or is able to create a profile of those trying to game the system after all every criminal has an MO because we are creatures of habit. Not calling anyone here a criminal. The same way I see clues or behavior that make me diagnose depression Google is able to crawl and determine the behavior of those creating sites or networks. Google is always playing catchup because it has to let patterns develop. The Internet is the goose that lays the golden eggs for google and won't have anyone ruin it for them.

allaboutdomains said:

My expired domains are still alive and well. The key is to not leave a footprint. If you do, not only will they eventually be deindexed but they also lose their link juice, --url link not allowed for noobs--

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Cool link. It is a bit easier to follow with the figures, which can be found by clicking on the "images" link on that page, then clicking on the "full pages" button on the next page. .

aposterioris said:

I'm a Newby in IM but my profession is in psychology. I think that changes are made by Google Each time it finds a trend or is able to create a profile of those trying to game the system after all every criminal has an MO because we are creatures of habit. Not calling anyone here a criminal. The same way I see clues or behavior that make me diagnose depression Google is able to crawl and determine the behavior of those creating sites or networks. Google is always playing catchup because it has to let patterns develop. The Internet is the goose that lays the golden eggs for google and won't have anyone ruin it for them.

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Very SciFi. Doubt very much that Google is tracking behavior for users suspected of BH SEO (how would they determine who to suspect?). It would seem that looking for technical "footprints" based on some algo would be their most economical "low hanging fruit" rather than attempting to predict very complex human behavior patterns with BH SEO activity (which would likely yield a huge false positive reading).

I will give my opinion based on observation. If you want to call it fiction be my guest because I do not really care.

If you take some low density search terms and look at the results, especially if you have a page targeted at that keyword, you will see pages jumping in and out of the index. if you check info:site.tld, you will see that the site is indexed. What it appears is happening is that G is temporarily removing sites from the serp and checking link velocity to that site. Google has been doing this for quite some time and it is nothing new. However, by building links to the sites when G has removed them from the serp you are revealing your network.

JustUs said:

I will give my opinion based on observation. If you want to call it fiction be my guest because I do not really care.

If you take some low density search terms and look at the results, especially if you have a page targeted at that keyword, you will see pages jumping in and out of the index. if you check info:site.tld, you will see that the site is indexed. What it appears is happening is that G is temporarily removing sites from the serp and checking link velocity to that site. Google has been doing this for quite some time and it is nothing new. However, by building links to the sites when G has removed them from the serp you are revealing your network.

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i even heard that is no good to remove dead links or deindexed one because to G that is not natural thus putting a bulls eye on the site. It's that true?

JustUs said:

I will give my opinion based on observation. If you want to call it fiction be my guest because I do not really care.

If you take some low density search terms and look at the results, especially if you have a page targeted at that keyword, you will see pages jumping in and out of the index. if you check info:site.tld, you will see that the site is indexed. What it appears is happening is that G is temporarily removing sites from the serp and checking link velocity to that site. Google has been doing this for quite some time and it is nothing new. However, by building links to the sites when G has removed them from the serp you are revealing your network.

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A page that is not indexed by google for a short time could still gain natural links. Google isnt the only way of discovering content. What about someone who finds the site on facebook, twitter, bing etc? They could post a link somewhere.