Some New Update for PBN?

Yup I lost some for the first time only about 5 but it's a shame as they were nearly 3 years old:( all with original non spun content
 
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Paulie W said:
Very true, I like this site and find them guys legit, but how can you teach people about how to run a PBN if you are not using fake registration info yourself? Thats such a rookie mistake.

@ registrar accounts: Do you mean just to switch the registrars and use your real name or even create fake registrar accounts? THe problem I see with the later is that if some of your sites get hacked or something, its difficult to get them back if you used a fake information and therefore can not prove that you are the real owner.
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I first started creating multiple registrar accounts using my real name, then moved to using names of close friends and family members, then finally decided to just use a new fake name for each new registrar account I use. The billing methods are however, similar - a couple of credit cards and PayPal accounts. However, I don't think they have access to this info. So in case they smell something suspicious I'm telling them this is an account or domain I'm registering on behalf of a client which pays me directly for domain registration and has no clue how to do it himself.

The more registrar accounts you have, the better.

Alex
 
I've been seeing their PBNs being penaltied for about 2 months now, any news about it being fixed? (if even possible)
 
prab1996 said:
No one can protect your pbn from google , if you are in big boy serps and using a pbn then that pbn can get deindexed anytime.

Web spam team know that atlest one site in top ten for big boy serps is using a pbn and a few clicks on their pc will make your pbn a open book. (at that speed they can deindex upto 1k sites /hour)
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What makes it worse is that Google can see all your links, compile them, and visit them manually or develop a bot that auto-identifies PBN sites. No PBN is truly private.
 
Websites that were linked to from the deindexed PBNs were also hit.
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of course :)

but i read some where few days back that google query site: some time work and some time not show any page.
 
Paulie W said:
Looks like the trigger for this massive hit is the register / whois data

http://www.nohatdigital.com/blog/pbn-sites-de-indexed/
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That's pure speculation, though it could be one of the reason because I think there are many reasons, one of which is expired/dropped domains. Only expired and dropped domains are used in PBNs, and Google can monitor all expired/dropped domains to see if they will be bought/re-registered.
 
W130SN said:
90% of people don't know how to build a PBN and most of those people trying to build them, have not even ranked a site and know less about SEO tham my Cat.
Buying some expired domains, putting up some shit content, then leaving footprints everywhere, isn't going to cut it.
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Hayden Miyamoto of NoHatDigital (formerly NoHatSEO) is an expert at building PBNs and is Spencer Haws' business partner, yet his PBN sites were deindexed. It's not about being able to build a PBN properly, it's about being lucky. Why? Because, let's be honest with ourselves, if Google wanted to deindex all the PBNs in existence today, they would.
 
xaviel said:
Exactly.

Google works in broad strokes: Find "unatural" pattern. Write an algorithm that detects it. Minimize the false positives.

If you build your own PBN carefully, you'll be fine. (Emphasis being on Private in the "PBN")

There is only so much algos can do to differentiate between two sites, both offering value and linking back to another site.
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Not when they are all expired/dropped domain names.
 
ritesh said:
Thats my daily routine. I have even nightmares for past 1 week that my PBN will get deindexed :P I woke up in middle just to check whether my domains are still indexed or not yesterday :P With so much activity going around PBN it has become quite a difficult commodity to maintain especially with some much time and money at stake.
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PBN links will likely get more expensive as they become more expensive and difficult to run.
 
SEO Power said:
Hayden Miyamoto of NoHatDigital (formerly NoHatSEO) is an expert at building PBNs and is Spencer Haws' business partner, yet his PBN sites were deindexed. It's not about being able to build a PBN properly, it's about being lucky. Why? Because, let's be honest with ourselves, if Google wanted to deindex all the PBNs in existence today, they would.
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He may be an expert but to get hit with a thin content penalty is a rookie mistake.
Just because sites are part of a PBN doesn't make them immune to Penguin and Panda.
What is the point of spending $1000's on building a PBN, then treating those sites like shit?
Rather than telling noobs to build PBN's, they should be telling them to learn SEO first.
 
SEO Power said:
Hayden Miyamoto of NoHatDigital (formerly NoHatSEO) is an expert at building PBNs and is Spencer Haws' business partner, yet his PBN sites were deindexed. It's not about being able to build a PBN properly, it's about being lucky. Why? Because, let's be honest with ourselves, if Google wanted to deindex all the PBNs in existence today, they would.
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I bet 20 pr4 doamins to you if google is able to find and deindex my 10 site pr5 .ca domain pbn. You are a rep manager @ onehour indexing and i not think if you go any experience in seo (if you might have experience then you might be not doing a 9-5 )

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SEO Power said:
That's pure speculation, though it could be one of the reason because I think there are many reasons, one of which is expired/dropped domains. Only expired and dropped domains are used in PBNs, and Google can monitor all expired/dropped domains to see if they will be bought/re-registered.
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SEO Power said:
Not when they are all expired/dropped domain names.
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And this is pure speculation by you without any data. Google can monitor dropped domains but it cannot monitor expiring/auction ones which takes a click ? Dont spread BS and conspiracy theories. In past few months, I have registered and hosted 800 domains on more than 50 hosts. I had like 8-10 deindexed and the only common denominator was I was using 1$ hosting named BlastPort. The funny thing was they only had a Hello World Post and nothing else. Domains which I had on Hostgator, Inmotion, Bluehost, Site5 etc are absolutely fine. The update has more got to do with IPs and shitty 1$ hosting according to me. I am not saying all 1$ hostings have been affected, but quite a few were hit.

And how about using multiquotes?
 
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I think that more you are exposed with your work like NohatDigital, more you will increase the risks. I think that this kind of manual penalization are well targeted.
 
netmoney1 said:
Is one hour indexing paying you per post? You know you can reply to multiple people in a single response, right?
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I don't know what's wrong with you. If you have any grudge against HK SEO, speak out so we can know where we went wrong. Otherwise, die in silence.
 
prab1996 said:
I bet 20 pr4 doamins to you if google is able to find and deindex my 10 site pr5 .ca domain pbn. You are a rep manager @ onehour indexing and i not think if you go any experience in seo (if you might have experience then you might be not doing a 9-5 )

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I've been building and ranking sites for years, so if you think I don't have any SEO experience, that's fine with me. You have the right to think whatever you want about anyone. If I was a Google employee, it wouldn't be difficult for me to fish out and deindex all PBNs.

Just admit it. We are all taking risks. It starts the moment you build the first backlink to your site.
 
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