Social Signal Question
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tasburrfoot
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Ive sent you a PM with my recommendation.
Not sure what misinformation is being spread these days, but there is no such thing as "US social signals".
When Google gets social share count data (if they even use social signals for rankings, nobody has proven that they do), that's all they're getting: a count.
Your goal, if you're trying to get social signals, is to increase that number. Google doesn't see whether the signals are coming from a click farm in Bangladesh or from real people (at least not for Twitter [which doesn't provide a counter anymore], or Facebook -- potentially Google+ since they own the platform).
You can check this yourself, simply Google "graph API URL object Facebook developers" and check the share_count for any site. No other information is provided other than the share count.
If you're looking for demographic specific signals in the rare event that Google discriminates on Google+, you're wasting your time. Most providers have the accounts that they generate social signals from on private, so you won't be able to verify where the signals are coming from.
When Google gets social share count data (if they even use social signals for rankings, nobody has proven that they do), that's all they're getting: a count.
Your goal, if you're trying to get social signals, is to increase that number. Google doesn't see whether the signals are coming from a click farm in Bangladesh or from real people (at least not for Twitter [which doesn't provide a counter anymore], or Facebook -- potentially Google+ since they own the platform).
You can check this yourself, simply Google "graph API URL object Facebook developers" and check the share_count for any site. No other information is provided other than the share count.
If you're looking for demographic specific signals in the rare event that Google discriminates on Google+, you're wasting your time. Most providers have the accounts that they generate social signals from on private, so you won't be able to verify where the signals are coming from.
r00k
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If I get 1000 likes on my facebook page from India. It then shows my page trending from India. How are you going to tell me US doesnt matter? One of my FB pages shows that spammy ass "Trending in India" shit all over it. I care because FB cares. Not because google cares. So it does matter lol.
tasburrfoot
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If you're buying likes, shares, and follows to benefit your Facebook page, that is entirely different from generating social signals for a website.
r00k
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No difference. Liking my articles on my website through facebook, that I have directly shared from my facebook page already. They still link up. Go to an article youve shared on facebook from your page. It links directly with the signals from your website. This is how my first page got trended in India.
What you're looking for isn't social signals then.
You're looking for Facebook page likes.
And to be frank, the same issue applies here: whether or not you buy likes from India or the United States, you're wasting your time buying likes to your fan page that are not interested in what you really have to provide.
Even if you spend money running ads to get Facebook fan page likes, it's hardly worth it. You'll have to pay to run ads to those people that like your page anyway...
Rethink your strategy.
r00k
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Again. Directly liking articles on my website, that I've already shared on facebook can cause trending. It doesnt only take a facebook page to be liked to cause trending.
tasburrfoot
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I use social signals to balance when I'm building back links to try and appear more natural. My brand doesn't even have social media accounts(other than g+), because my niche just doesn't appeal to that stuff. The largest niche related page I've seen has 1300 followers on Twitter, and like 700memvers on Facebook. That's not even worth the time to build for me.
That being said, i still use social signals and see benefits from them. It doesn't matter where the social signals come from, because I'm not using them as a traffic source so I could careless if they teen in India, I'm using it to appeal to google.
If you're using social signals for SEO purposes, it's different then targetting when you're building a Facebook page. In that instance you only want relevant followers, likes, and shares.
r00k
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Okay you arent grasping what I'm saying.
Okay, imagine in your scenario, you DID have a social media account. What happens is, those articles on your social media, LINK UP with those articles on your site, along with all the likes and shares. If those likes and shares come from India, it looks scammy as fuck when you're a US English based site. 1. Because now if someone looks at the likes, it's all indian dudes. 2. You get hit with the "Trending In India" flag. That's what I'm avoiding by buying US Signals.
tasburrfoot
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If someone posts a link to your article on FB and then it gets liked and shared around, it doesn't sync up with your FB page at all?
If i go on Facebook and post "Google.com has an awesome article" and attach the link, that post isn't going to be tied to the Google Facebook page in any way.
That's what you're getting when you prchase social signals, is just people talking about and linking to your site. Not page shares/likes. Yourfacebook page wouldn't be impacted by this at all.
If i go on Facebook and post "Google.com has an awesome article" and attach the link, that post isn't going to be tied to the Google Facebook page in any way.
That's what you're getting when you prchase social signals, is just people talking about and linking to your site. Not page shares/likes. Yourfacebook page wouldn't be impacted by this at all.
r00k
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The article is already shared by my page. If they directly like the article from my site (which by anyones definition is a social signal) it links up with the share I already created.
This is like talking to a brick wall with you two. I'm unwatching this thread. Waste of time. I was asking how to bake muffins and got 50 questions about why I like muffins. Fuck sakes.
This is like talking to a brick wall with you two. I'm unwatching this thread. Waste of time. I was asking how to bake muffins and got 50 questions about why I like muffins. Fuck sakes.
Don't quit your day job.