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Discussion in 'The Shit List' started by GoGetRanked, Jul 18, 2013.

  1. GoGetRanked

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    I contacted jordan after i had a client contact me to get a site done.
    client had a site in mind which they wanted cloned ..i read some threads and i contacted jordan after reading the thread.
    here is our initial interaction
    [1:53:38 AM] Jordan: Hey there! How can I be of assistance?
    [1:53:56 AM] ME: hey jordan
    [1:54:00 AM] ME: i need this site cloned
    [1:54:13 AM] ME: http://****.com/
    [1:54:28 AM] ME: let me know if it can be done ..price .. and ETA if we order today
    [1:54:30 AM] ME: thanx
    [1:54:44 AM] ME: i am here if u want to spend a few minutes studying it
    [1:55:10 AM] ME: hopfully its not your site or done by you ;-)
    then
    [2:01:28 AM] Jordan: I can make you something similiar for $150, have it done tomorrow.
    [2:01:47 AM] Jordan: Which is as cheap in the States as you will find. And only because I have 5 in-house employees ;)


    [2:04:13 AM] Jordan: Go blue, something similiar to my site www.*****.com or www.*****.com

    [3:04:37 AM] ME: whats my ETA for delivery ?
    [3:04:53 AM] Jordan: 48 hours 100% complete with content.



    All this is on 18th June .. then i contacted them again when i was not getting my work delivered and was told it will be done soon

    My customer kept giving me more time as i kept pleading with him , based on jordan's words .. but he finally gave up since i could not deliver ..
    i told jordan customer is about to cancel and he still did not repond to skype/emails

    and now after a MONTH goes by .. this is what i get in email

    Quote -
    A full refund will not be issued due to the time of the case. We will replace 50% and you will receive what there was as-is. We could not reach an agreement on a color scheme, which you could have easily changed to please your client.

    Either 50% or our lawyers will get this reversed fairly easy as we document our time on video.

    Thank you!

    - JD
    - End Quote

    and i am livid since
    1. I gave him CLEARLY the site customer wanted cloned and to bring up colors/design after a MONTH is just plain wrong
    2. He started lying to me and gave me contact of another person , fronting him as jordans "business partner" , who clearly told me
    " Okay again - it's not you guys. I work with Jordan occasionally - you never signed any contract with me, sir."
    3. I understand he has worked on the site , but it was not a failure on my part of any kind , it was his inability to deliver the product , that caused me monitory harm.

    And to come up with this excuse NOW , is just plain pathetic
    "We could not reach an agreement on a color scheme,"

    No the client did not cancel because of the "color scheme" ...he cancelled because we could not deliver in time

    Mods/Admins .. please help me out here

    regards
    ToG
     
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    Request this thread to be removed. Client was given product he paid for, so a 75% refund partition is in place.

    Proof of refund will be delivered soon.
     
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    I also request my personal name be removed ASAP, as well a United States LLC with a strong financial backing. Please refer to my BHW username.

    Genuinely,

    Smokin
     
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    Also failure to provide paperwork for any digital media agreement.. But there still will be a refund.
     
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    Smokin,

    1) Ok, I removed your personal info - only your first name and member name remain.

    2) Your request to have this SL removed is currently denied. I will need confirmation from the Op that he has received the refund and agrees that this is the correct amount.

    OS
     
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  7. GoGetRanked

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    Thank you OS .. i have received a PM from JD
    If i get the refund as promised i will let you know and you can close this thread ..

    Thank you JD and OS ..

    regards
    ToG
     
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    It will be there Friday.

    -JD
     
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    Smokin', Once you're paid up, this thread will be removed.

    OS
     
  10. GoGetRanked

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    no update from Jordan yet.

    regards
    ToG
     
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    Smokin,

    If you're a 'LLC with such a strong financial backing' (your words, not mine), how about you stop playing games with this small amount of money, pay back TheOnlyGame and we can get past it?

    You've got 24 hours before I'll take permanent action.
     
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  12. GoGetRanked

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    JD.. if you need more time , please let me know ..i am not an unreasonable person .. and i understand business can be slow sometimes ..
    Please do honor your words though.

    regards
    ToG
     
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    Smokin did not refund TheOnlyGame as promised.

    Smokin has been perma-banned.

    OS
     
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  14. GoGetRanked

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    Thanx OS ..guys reading ..
    i did get 200$ refunded by paypal ..but lost about 150
    I am sure hes just going to register with another ip ..but i was thinking ..he felt his account here is worth less that 150$ ? i would think 2 years old account with decent feedback ..i would do everything in my power to keep a good reputation and hopefully make 20 times than that here ..
    anyways matter seems to be closed... thank you OS for your prompt help

    regards,
    ToG
     
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    Not to hijack the thread, but just a suggestion....maybe "unhide" his company website and name in the OP...so others can see who to avoid.
     
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    netmoney ,
    i think it would be appropriate as JD ignored the ultimatum that OS gave him
    and he failed to deliver on his promise .

    and he chose to be banned than pay 150$ even when he belonged to
    "as well a United States LLC with a strong financial backing."




    regards,
    ToG
     
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    I have no problem if you disclose his website(s) but not his full name nor other info like phone #. I believe that his websites are public info. Note that I have not saved the info myself, so it's up to you ToG. I'm sure you still have them.

    OS
     
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    Yep Whois confirms it .. pretty strong financial backing too


    sorry admins ..just pissed at his behavior

    regards,
    ToG