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Sites dropping like rocks...Need some advice.

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by getsome1, Oct 1, 2011.

  1. getsome1

    getsome1 Newbie

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    Some times I'm pretty decent at this and other times I just don't get it.

    I have locked in several #1 positions. It take a while some times.

    Lately I have been getting some sites that n matter what I can't get to rank or drop like a rock. I have a new site almost most immediately hit page 2. Started linking. It dissapoeared for a couple fo days then cam back. Not I can't find it it anywhere, Except under the "dommainname.com" search.

    I had already linked it in to my network and some forum sig links that bought it to page 2.

    I added on more a link from one of my other sites and then it dropped like a rock. I also nofollowed all of the cloaked affiliate links.

    I'm really tired of this crap I have two other sites that have dropped like that for months with no improvement no matter what I do to them.

    Any suggestions?

    Also a couple of questions.

    Should I nofollow Affiliate links?

    Should I no follow for page rank sculpting? I have had it work but other times it;s seems to hurt.

    Should I no following links to authority sites?

    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. webhulk

    webhulk Registered Member

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    PM me your site and I can have a look...

    Should I nofollow Affiliate links? - see they are not 301
    Should I no following links to authority sites? - no.
     
  3. getsome1

    getsome1 Newbie

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    They are all php redirects. But I just check and on this site I'm not even redirecting only using straight affiliate links.

    But should I no follow them? I have heard of google penalizing for not nofollowing affiliate links as they see it as a paid link? Not sure if that's till the case or not.
     
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  4. phpbuilt

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    New websites have a sweet spot that can last a few weeks after Google finds out about you. If you've had big jumps in the SERPs through lots of backlinking, it is quite common to experience huge "google dancing", massive drops and rises in the serps, and even completely disappearing from the top 1000 for your keywords.

    Unless you've been deindexed, chances are you will pop back. It can take a few weeks, or even a few months. The best thing to do is be consistent with your backlinking, add new content, do not keyword-stuff your pages, and try to vary your anchor text in your backlinks some (not 100% your desired keyword when linking to your site).
     
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  5. getsome1

    getsome1 Newbie

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    I was good until I started varying the text.

    The other thing that makes no sense to me is this...

    People say stay consistent with your backlinking but if you have been dropped from the serps. No one would be finding your site so no one would be linking either. So back linking when you have been dropped looks artificial. I have no doubt google looks at this.

    If you are getting 3-5 back links a day of course they may not find them atthe same time but them you get dropped from the serps why would you still be getting 3-5 backlinks a day. I have noticed my sites that do the best are the once I do very little and sporadic backlinking to even though people clam the opposite.
     
  6. jdog37

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    Well thats a good point if google was the only search engine. But you also have bing, yahoo, ask, and others that your site may still be ranking well in. Not to mention traffic from social media like twitter or facebook.

    All these could be generating back links to your site.
     
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  7. phpbuilt

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    Completely unrelated. Doing well for a few weeks and then dropping in and out of the top 1000 is extremely common on a new site. You're not suffering any specific penalties because you started alternating anchor text, that is a beneficial thing to do. Anything that makes your links appear more natural is only going to benefit you.

    There are hundreds of reasons why you would get backlinks naturally, beyond being high in Google. You could have a viral site, people could be spreading news about you via social networks. Google is #1, Facebook is #2. You could have a newsworthy event have happened with CNN reporting about your site, people would start commenting and linking and it had nothing to do with SEO.

    You are right, a website can rank well based off nothing but the weight of its own internal backlinks and get some traffic from Google ... usually they would never rank for a medium to high competition keyword, but they could rank on longtails. You are also right that in this situation, spamming your website with a ton of low quality links in 1 blast and then stopping would most likely do more harm than good. But a diverse and consistent backlink campaign will be better than the strategy of barely adding any backlinks at all.