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Site making, HTML, Webdesign, professionals?

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by mordisk, Oct 29, 2012.

  1. mordisk

    mordisk Junior Member

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    What do you professionals do for the html on your website?

    I am sitting here writing my own HTML, and comparing to huge websites and company and thinking there is no way! All i know is if i want to make $$ like a pro, i need to be the pro. Professionals have Legit websites, Everything is organized, there's a homepage with links to other articles, etc.

    Now i don't have the slightest idea what I'm doing in HTML. I am willing to learn i just don't know where to start.
    I can make a legit myspace page, but thats pretty much as good as it gets here.

    I need some help, what do you professionals do to game with the other pro's websites?

    i don't have too much money to higher somebody, neither do i know too much HTML myself. should i get an HTML book( yes ) but this can take months until i can get exactly what i want/ need.
    Does anybody have any helpful suggestions for me ?

    I am not necessarily a newb in the business world, but in the HTML / web design world. Yes i am a newb.



    i have very very exclusive affiliate networks i am a part of, so once the website design is legit, i can start banking $$. I also have very good keywords and content.

    Someone with knowledge help, Please.
     
  2. dkh1978

    dkh1978 Regular Member

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    Depending on what you want to achieve with your site, you could go for a CMS like Wordpress or Joomla, and build your site with that, as many professionals do this as well, although they might customize their sites a bit. If you want to learn to make sites from scratch (this is a good idea as well, but mainly for future purposes, as you won´t be able to build a sophisticated site immediately), as stated several times on this site, you could go first learning HTML and CSS and then potentially moving to PHP. However, if you want first to build sites and then learn what´s under the hood, you can do several things with little optimizing with a CMS.

    On the other hand, if you have advantages on the affiliate marketing field, you could also make a joint venture with somebody who can help or deal with the sites while you focus on the business side of the sites. Here it does not matter if you don´t have the capital to hire a developer, but you commit to profit share once the business with the sites makes $$$.
     
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  3. atnvisions

    atnvisions Newbie

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    Totally agree but to be honest it´s better to start you journey with HTML and CSS without any WYSIWYG Editor. At the beginning it´s taking more time but you will learn better the different tags, options etc. and what they are doing or sometimes not :) Of course it takes time - nothing will be build up over night. It took for example for me something like 3 months until I was getting into TypoScript (special language for TYPO3 CMS).

    Especially at the beginning I wouldn´t start with a CMS. Sure it might be a simple way but if it comes to customizing you should be able to read and understand the code. So HTML, CSS is a good starter, later on also go with PHP.

    But as dkh1978 said: Maybe you find a partner to work with. Maybe the best way if you find someone where you have good synergy effects.
     
  4. Ryan Y

    Ryan Y Newbie

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    Hello,

    I can definitely guide you =). The first thing as stated would be best to get started with CMS. Because it provides such great functionality and definitely ease your headaches. The next step would be getting deeper into CMS - such as example using WordPress, you could utilize some .css & .html skills to start modifying an existing template or make something better. So basically from there you can branch out. If you need further assistance, do PM me. Hope i could help. :)
     
  5. Zapdos

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    I do ecommerce sites mainly.

    HTML now is simply for the scaffolding of a website, essentially. It puts everything in place with the correct markup. CSS is the aesthetics which makes it all nice and looking. The basics of any site has those two. Any professional website does not stop there. You need the gears, something to make it dynamic. PHP is the most used. It makes everything easier to add or change (ex: links in a header/footer, a description etc.) So if you wanted to edit a link in the header, you dont need to possibly update 5000 pages. Just one. Another option would be Ruby [on Rails].

    To make it even easier, you could use a database (like MySQL). Store all the information in there and use PHP simply for logic/determine what is shown. So now with everything in the database you can make an admin area.



    That's just the general gist of it. I would recommend checking out w3schools and/or tizag for HTML, CSS, PHP and MySQL. If you want a quicker way to get setup, use a CMS or platform for what you need. Wordpress, Joomla, Drupal, Opencart, Xcart, SMF, Vbulletin, Kayako, OSticket. Different platforms for different needs.
     
  6. The Web Designer

    The Web Designer Regular Member

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    HTML is not that difficult to master. It's just a markup language to tell the browser what an element is and how it should be displayed.

    Look for websites that you like, and study the source code to get to know how the html/css is coded to get the page how it looks. In learning html, the "View Source" menu is your friend.
     
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  7. mordisk

    mordisk Junior Member

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    Yeah this is what i've been starting to do.
    It seems very professional websites use clients or programs that help them build the website.
    Anybody who is down to joint venture, send me a message because i am reading and reading and working and working, things are slowly making its way but not nearly as quick as i need them to.
    I know patience is key, so i am working at my steady pace but i am the CEO of this company there are still so many more things i am going to need to do after i set up the website.

    Maybe i can hire an HTML professional on my staff and we will split our profit, But you would need to stay on board to work on any maintenance and updates, which will be everyday pretty much.


    like i said, i know what i am doing in the business end, I am going to become a millionaire with this company, weather i have to figure everything out myself, or not.
    and i have content that is being written daily, we have heaps of content, but not much progress in HTML yet, however, i am reading and learning and going to make this work for me no matter what. but if somebody who has similar interests or if anybody wants to step up to the plate and show me that you have what it takes for you to be my right hand man, then do it.

    I am awaiting messages, until then i will be reading, learning and implementing myself.

    Thanks for the great replies, you guys are awesome.
     
  8. Zapdos

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    There is a difference in programs professionals use and pseudo-professionals use.

    The real pro way: an IDE (integrated development environment) that actually analyzes your code base to give you a better idea of how it all works. It also may have inbuilt unit tests or a working environment without requiring its own install. There are many other features to different IDEs as well. Possible options that aren't an IDE (takes alot of resources) is a text editor like Notepad++ that still has recommendations, highlighting, collapsing etc but nothing integrated like an environment or unit tests.

    The pseudo-pro way: Using a WYSIWYG editor. May be fine for providing examples but on a live site it's horrible. It normally produces invalid HTML, excessive HTML or something you do not need. Often times I have to go in and fix others people work that used dreamweaver because they had managed to have about 10 levels of paragraphs somehow, or the wrong class recommended by DW.