Site is not ranking

I had the same situation with one of my site on an expired domain (4 years old at archive and no backlinks when I registered it). Now the site has good onpage seo, unique content with 50+ pages and really good backlinks, even with good social signals, no spam at all... After 2 months 2 kws are on 23-25 positions, 1 kw at position 100 and my main kw at 435, they are not even mid competition kws wtf...
I did the same process as of my other sites where the kws are in top3 now (after 1-2 months) with the difference that they were complete new domains (never registered before). :/

mickyfu said:

Maybe you could explain further on your findings, or maybe you are just repeating drivel that you have read. I will go back to the Google sandbox several years ago. Your website was sandboxed, ie it was nowhere to be seen, not page two sandbox nonsense, not page four.

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It doesn't take much to find info on google sandbox... just run a search on google. And no, I'm not repeating drivel. You don't know me. I've been in the SEO business since 1999. When did you start? 3 years ago?? Give me a break!

I would include some references here for you to get educated, but I'm not able to post links here yet.

Quote from SEL:

Buying Expired Domains: Don't Expect Credit
Have you picked up a domain that was once owned by someone, not through buying it directly from them but because it had expired and went back into the common pool of domains for purchase by anyone? That's an expired domain - and chances are, the backlinks aren't going to pass credit according to Matt's statement.

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Quote from Wikipedia:

According to the theory of the sandbox effect, links which may normally be weighted by Google's ranking algorithm, not least improving the position of a webpage in Google's index, may be subjected to filtering to prevent their having a full impact. Some observations have suggested that two important factors for causing this filter to come into play are the active age of a domain, and the competitiveness of the keywords used in links.

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oldschoolseo said:

It doesn't take much to find info on google sandbox... just run a search on google. And no, I'm not repeating drivel. You don't know me. I've been in the SEO business since 1999. When did you start? 3 years ago?? Give me a break!

I would include some references here for you to get educated, but I'm not able to post links here yet.

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No son, not three years ago. And here you go kid to piss on your sandbox, I can still rank websites, today as pre May. The sandbox only exists in the minds of noobs.

And he proves the noob he is by quoting Wikipedia as a genuine source of information, you have just lost all credibility.

mickyfu said:

No son, not three years ago. And here you go kid to piss on your sandbox, I can still rank websites, today as pre May. The sandbox only exists in the minds of noobs.

And he proves the noob he is by quoting Wikipedia as a genuine source of information, you have just lost all credibility.

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I'm not a kid... I'm probably older than you are. Big deal that you can rank sites pre-May. You clearly have no idea what Sandbox is about. It doesn't mean you can't rank sites at all, it just means you won't rank in the beginning to the full potential of your site. Also, the niche of the website matters. If you're calling everyone that believes in Sandbox a noob, then you are calling most SEO veterans noobs as well.

And, if you don't think Wikipedia is a good source of information, then you have no credibility. Even Google uses Wikipedia for many of their search results. You probably use Alexa for all your website data. What a noob you are!

It never fails... I join a forum like this and there is always some wannabe know-it-all like yourself that wanna act like an jerk because I just joined the forum.

oldschoolseo said:

I'm not a kid... I'm probably older than you are. Big deal that you can rank sites pre-May. You clearly have no idea what Sandbox is about.

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You are probably older than me? Wow big deal if you are or you are not. I have no idea what the sandbox is? Yes years ago your website would go into the sandbox randomly, it would stay there for months, ""Showing Nowhere"", today the term "Sandbox" is used by anyone who cannot rank a website. No your website does not get sanboxed on page two three or four, to suggest it does just shows your level of knowledge. Try Googleing pre May 2014 "Stuck on page two", nothing new, I guess you just bought into all the crap being spread by the clueless who never ranked a website before May 2014 or after.

oldschoolseo said:

And, if you don't think Wikipedia is a good source of information, then you have no credibility. Even Google uses Wikipedia for many of their search results. You probably use Alexa for all your website data. What a noob you are!

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FYI, in collegues or any international institution, Wikipedia is considered as a not reliable and can never be used as official source.

Google rank wikipedia higher is because of their domain authority, Google can't valuate the credibility of info provided by a site, but can only determine if those info are relevant to searchers.

Not to mention, wikipedia is made from people just like you and me, you will know if you ever try to make a post in them of course.

If you have been in SEO industry since 1999, you should know SEL and SEJ are all spreading BS in every ways possible.

NO offence though.

Can you stop argue haha and please tell me who could i fix this issue or what ever i could do that my site will appear on first 20 pages of google search for kw.
Thanks

dvs121 said:

Can you stop argue haha and please tell me who could i fix this issue or what ever i could do that my site will appear on first 20 pages of google search for kw.
Thanks

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High quality 301 redirects.

mickyfu said:

High quality 301 redirects.

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Well i don't know how to do that so i can't do it

Sometimes you just have to wait

Check your site's search performance. Go to web master tools and check details.

dvs121 said:

Well i don't know how to do that so i can't do it

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Buy an expired/deleted/auctioned domain with a good backlinking profile and in your cPanel redirect it to your money site.

I'm experiencing the very same, not internationaly though. I started a new big project in june. 2 of the 12 sites i've made arn't ranking for a single keyword after 3 months +. Not a single time, its been n/a from the very start almost hitting day 100.

Site has no penalty or recent panda nor pinguin.
Domain is branded, never registered before, also clean in wayback.
Theres no over optimalistation, offsite nor onsite.
Theres no Google webmaster error at all.
1 site with 100% N/A Keywords hasnt been build a single backlink too. The other one got sitemap submitted and 10 PBN weeks ago just for testing. Still n/a
All my pages are perfectly indexed, rapidly from the start. Organicly. Google site:domain displays everything every since.

I started the very first domain 3.5 months ago. I wrote and bought nearly three hundred, 500 to 4k word reviews over the past 4 months. Not a single keyword have touched page 1 yet. Exactly a year ago i achieved page 1 without a single backlink in one very same niche i restarted again.

I'll continue to wait patiently, thus far i've tried 12 different approaches. Its never been this rough.

dvs121 said:

Well i don't know how to do that so i can't do it

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You know you can learn how to do it?

Here you go:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learning

dvs121 said:

Well i don't know how to do that so i can't do it

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Best off buying them off people who know what they are doing.