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Single core laptop

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by Cdman, Sep 16, 2011.

  1. Cdman

    Cdman Power Member

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    Hey :)

    So, I kinda need an ultra portable laptop (13.3" and light) that's as cheap as possible (tight on cash - in college). I've found one on eBay that's over in a couple of hours, everything seems ok, 1.66ghz, 2gb ram and win7 but only single core. It's the N455.

    If I get it at the price it's on at the moment it will be around €200 or so.

    My course involves virtual basic which needs 1.66ghz and 2gb ram
    So would this be ok ?

    Thanks
     
  2. Cdman

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    Bumpty bump
     
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    Sounds ok to me mate. Just read the small print seeing as it's eBay:)
    Also, check bigpockets they have some good recon laptops.
     
  4. Cdman

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    Thanks.

    Do you know anything about laptops ? Would like someones opinion on it if I could :)

    Edit - forget about it lol. Someone made a bid so it's not worth it anymore imo
     
  5. Cdman

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    I currently have Acer Aspire 3410, was around 400eur (500$ or so). It's around the specs u said. Among other things, using it for coding in C# and never had a problem even with running two instances of Visual Studio 2010
     
  7. Cdman

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    Really ? nice :)

    That has 1.2ghz I think doesn't it ? The one I'm thinking about has 1.33ghz.

    But Visual basic has 1.66ghz in the requirements, but it probably wouldn't make much difference ?
     
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    Yep that's what I am using. IF you want PM me, i can share screen with you, you can take a look at how it works. It's not running the smoothest way possible, but gets the job done for sure
     
  9. Cdman

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    Thanks man but it's fine :)

    Was just wondering if 1.3GHz would be extremely slow for apps such as visual basic really.
     
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    My friend just bought this which I thought was a great deal: ASUS U31SD-XA1 13.3-Inch Laptop (Silver)

    Look for it on amazon the site is preventing me from posting a link
     
  11. Chronos

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    Netbooks are the way to go. I bought mine for like $250.

    ASUS Eee something.

    2gigs of RAM, 11 inch screen, runs fine for what I need to do on the go.
     
  12. Cdman

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    I heard Netbooks have a short lifespan because that have no exhaust for dispensing
    heat.
     
  14. Jonny Quick

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    No optical drive.

    Netbooks are just small laptops without any optical drive. Nothing special about them except they are small and cheap.

    You aren't going to notice clock speed factoring into any performance differences. single vs. dual core is your first spec, then how much RAM.

    I also think you are better off buying a used laptop directly from a owner, rather than a 3rd party vendor, most particulary online (ebay, etc...) They have a profit marging built in. You should assume that anything that you buy from them can be had cheaper bought directly from the owner. No different than used cars.

    Single-core laptops here start at about $150. I sold one for $225.00. Euro conversion is about 1.3 dollars : 1 Euro. You need at least a 1 week, money-back guarantee. Make sure the O/S is legal, otherwise Validation or Activation will turn it off completely. Use Magic Jelly Bean to check that they Product Key that is installed matches the Product Key on the Product ID label on the outside of the computer.

    Also don't choose to follow advice from people you can understand over people that know what they are talking about. Inform yourself to a higher level rather than taking the easy way and staying as dumb as those around you. I see a lot of stupid computer advice being given as if it's gospel, and do not comment or contradict because I might be banned if I told these people exactly who and what I think they are.

    Also I would not try to run either Win7 or Vista with a single core; they are too resource intensive and it will run SLOW. XP is good enough for your purposes. I wouldn't run Vista for any reason; it's a stinking turd.
     
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    from my experienc don't buy a single core.


    Now a days a single core can't even watch youtube videos without messing up because of cpu power.

    you need at least dual core with minimum 2gb of ram these days. Peace.
     
  16. Cdman

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    Jonny - so, the processor comes first, then ram? Well in that case, the laptop that I linked to above seems good then, yes?
     
  17. Jonny Quick

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    It has to do with the "weight" of the spec and how it applies to overall performance. For the most part, a slow dual-core will outperform a fast single-core. Single cores are very old & obsolete. You can do basic surfing and emails with them, but not gaming, video processing or anything else that is resource-intensive. You wouldn't run Win7 on a single-core machine. And a slow dual-core with a lot of RAM will outperform a fast dual-core with very little. These are imprecise ideas, but for a novice trying to buy a used laptop, they are good enough. My primary point is to advise you to not get too "spun-up" on insignficant details, while ignoring significant ones. Your first three questions are:

    1) How much is it?
    2) Is it single or dual-core?
    3) How much RAM?

    First thing to look at is price. Note, your 279 (Euro?) laptop converts to $384 US dollars, which is quite high for a used laptop (see below). You need to find out in this specific case what the word "refurbished" means. If it does not come with a good warranty, then it is no better than a "used" laptop and is therefore over-priced. Also make certain you can actually execute the warranty. If you have to pay for shipping & handling in both directions, and the list of covered defects is very limited, and they get to decide whether or not it's covered, have the final work and you have to pay to have them send it back to you (this happens), then I would buy somewhere else. There are plenty of used laptops, all over the world, and there is no compelling reason to purchase one from any particular source. It's a Buyer's market. Laptop's are high-risk and of uncertain resale value. You could pay $325.00 for a used laptop, then have it fall off the table and crash on the floor and be worthless for anything other than parts. You cannot rely on the idea that you can recover your investment as laptop are fragile and tempermental. They break for no reason at all.

    Find out what a brand-new and low-end laptop costs. This is going to establish the high-end of your price range, as it makes no sense to pay more than 75% of a new laptop's price for a used one. There is risk involved in purchasing a used laptop. The Seller is selling it for a reason. There may be hidden problems that you do not discover until it is too late to get your money back. This is why a 1 week minimum, money-back guarantee is mandatory, and you need to make certain you are able to enforce it, if necessary. It's best if you buy the laptop at the Seller's house; that way you know where to go if there is a serious issue and they cannot feel secure in defrauding you. Understand, a fraudulant Seller doesn't know who you are either. You could be some kook that will come by and burn their house down if the laptop turns out to be a piece of junk. That is your power "edge" and it's a good idea to preserve it.

    Here's a large list of dual-core laptops with 3 Gbytes RAM being sold new on NewEgg, except for note the refurbished $289 Compaq, listed from lowest price to highest:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=Property&N=100006740&IsNodeId=1&PropertyCodeValue=393%3A60307%2C393%3A58096%2C393%3A60310%2C393%3A100612%2C393%3A28102%2C410%3A10742&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=20

    These are being sold by the best online retailer on the planet, and these results are ideal. Anything better than these results comes with a certain amount of risk. As I said before, you are better off buying from a private individual in your home town, at there house and in person. You can negotiate directly, test it in their presence, get a 1 week warranty and know where to find them if they try to dodge you for a refund. This cuts out a whole lot of Sellers with bad intent, as they might be willing to cheat you, but not if it means they wind up with their throat cut in the middle of the front yard, while their pet chihuahua whimpers and frantically tries to dial 911.

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  18. Cdman

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    Thanks again jonny, atm that link isn't working but should be soon.

    And the price of the laptop is £279 which is around €320.

    It also has a 3 month warranty.
     
  19. Jonny Quick

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    So the "279" figure is British Pounds? If so, the US dollar value is even higher (and worse), $440.68. WAY too much. You should be able to buy that computer from a private party for half that amount. And again, "3 month warranty" means nothing if you are paying freight in both directions, have a limited amount of coverage and the Seller reserves the right to make the final determination if it's covered or not.
     
  20. Cdman

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    Yup. It's the best ive seen so far though. I think everything over here is more expensive than the US. If I were to buy it from the US the tax would be very high once it gets to me. Pretty sure the site I linked to is acer's site, so I'd think they would be good enough to deal with.