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Should I ignore googles keyword tool?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by whyyo, Jun 4, 2012.

  1. whyyo

    whyyo Newbie

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    Okay so whats going on is i found a long tail key word and its very good.. But its not coming up in Google's KW tool in [exact] Searches... Should i ignore it and still go for it.. I also put it in to googles browser with keyword in parentheses and it came up with 33,100 searches..? has anyone went against google like this.?
     
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    ryannull Senior Member

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    Try Google's Traffic Estimator. That is "reasonably" more accurate.

    Adwords Keyword Tool is good for getting an idea of keywords and variations. The traffic volume it provides is way off.
     
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    Okay cool thanks but how exactly would i know if its a good KW with the traffic estimator..? do i look at impressions or the cpc..? thanks in advance
     
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    What I do is use the adwords keyword tool and do a broad search for keywords. That way I can get an idea what variations are used. Then, I take the keywords i want to target and put them in the traffic estimator. I set the cpc and daily budget high, to see the daily click volume. It will give you a fairly close estimate what you can expect for clicks per day if you were in the top position.
     
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    How is a PPC traffic estimator more reliable? It's telling you how many clicks it THINKS an advertisement will get. Not a lot of people click ads...

    And it pulls it's Global Monthly Searches & Local Monthly Searches from the same place the Keyword Tool does.

    Lol am I missing something?
     
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    Ohh okay okay... so when should i use [exact] searches.? sorry for the newbie questions..
     
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    I said more reasonable.

    The adwords keyword tool volume is way off. If you did keyword research daily, you would know this.
     
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    It's not way off. It is data, it comes from places, they have to be held accountable for it. Google is not going to create an industry standard tool that millions are loyal to, and inflate numbers. They wouldn't risk their image for... what exactly? People are just mistaken when they are expecting high CTR's.
     
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    Okay now I'm getting confused again damn. I'm not doing ppc.. let me clarify so i can get better help.. i Put a keyword into the kw tool that google has.. i set it to [exact] searches the keyword did not come up.. Its a fairly good long tail key word.. So then what i did i went to googles browser and typed in the "keyword" in parentheses like so.. it came up with 33,100 searches.. why is the keyword not coming up in the [exact] matches.? but it is getting searched.?
     
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    They wouldn't risk their image? The last update wasn't a good image creator.

    I have built several websites in the past going by the adwords tool and not getting crap for traffic. Here I am sitting #1 and I am not getting traffic. Something is wrong.

    Adwords tool is showing me a high amount, and I am only getting a few clicks a day. When you go to the traffic estimator and it says you should be getting around 10. It's pretty clear to me, it is way off.

    I base my keyword volume research off the estimator.
     
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    What makes it a good long tail if it doesnt have any monthly searches?
     
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    i think Google adword keyword tool are cool! These tool are helpful for set target and analyzes traffic, here I can set cpc and check daily click's.
     
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    On keywords I was getting major traffic from, the traffic estimator tells me 0.04 per day on some of them, doesn't make any sense..
     
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    That's because that tools is used to predict traffic for advertisements set up through adwords, not to predict traffic for search results.
     
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