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Should I focus on domain PR or link PR?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by altjx, Sep 11, 2011.

  1. altjx

    altjx Regular Member

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    Using scrapebox for the first few times and just ran through the first tutorial, but now I'm curious as I've found many high PR blogs relating to my niche that I'm going to post on.

    Which is most important, the PR of the link/article that I'm going to post on, or the PR of the domain? Reason I ask is because I'd love to keep the entire domain list with good PRs so I can become active on posting there. But if the PR of the article is what matters, then I might be wasting my time.

    Hope that makes sense.
     
  2. jon_xx_x

    jon_xx_x Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Link PR. PR of the domain is useless, I can't understand why people use it or buy services with the seller promoting it. You get no value from it, unless you some how get a link from the homepage to the page where your link is.
     
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  3. altjx

    altjx Regular Member

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    Thanks man, that makes perfect sense.
     
  4. morehits

    morehits Junior Member

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    The article link is where your comment will be so that will have most link juice for you but it is still worth posting if its a high PR blog.
     
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  5. jon_xx_x

    jon_xx_x Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    It's just my opinion, I'm sure there are a ton here that will argue it, but I think it's stupid.
     
  6. altjx

    altjx Regular Member

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    Oh ok. I'm still in the learning stages so instead of scrapebox doing EVERYTHING, I'm trying to take it step by step finding out what and why :p
     
  7. themidiman

    themidiman Power Member

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    I personally think domain PR is very important. Domain trust as well.
    Don't you think it would help if you were to get a link from a brand new n/a page on nytimes.com?
    Just like I think a link from a PR2 page on a PR7 domain,
    is better than a link from a PR2 page on a PR2 domain.

    Also just my opinion
     
  8. altjx

    altjx Regular Member

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    Do you say that because the high PR domain can potentially rank the article high PR as well?
     
  9. chickenboom

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    High PR domain is an authority link....
     
  10. ksy213

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    Just work on both. They will give you better results.
     
  11. Monrox

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    The pr of the domain is specifically mentioned in their patent (try 'pagerank' on wikipedia). The pr of the page is a nice to have but I prefer a pr0 link on a pr7 domain than a pr3 link on a pr1 domain.
     
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    Neither, think in terms of relevance and authority rather than Larry Page Rank!

    -aReJay
     
  13. jon_xx_x

    jon_xx_x Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Valid point.

    When this question comes up, I just automatically think profile links, or web 2.0 properties. And I see those as having little value.
     
  14. madoctopus

    madoctopus Supreme Member

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    Depends what kind of page is and what potential it has. If it is a profile page it has no potential to grow in PR from the domain itself because of how CMS' are architected. If it is a post on NYTimes or CNN obviously will grow in PR and pass lots of juice and even more domain trust.

    A PR0 page on a high PR domain is great for using that site as a parasite host where you post some content with links and then you send lots of low quality links to it in a short time. If you build too many links fast to your main site that will get you a penalty, but if you build lots of links fast to a page of a PR7 domain nothing happens to it and you get a high PR page you control.

    That's why I try to get guest posts on high PR sites and then send lots of links to them. If by itself that parasite page would have gotten to PR2 from the domain itself and I manage to grow it to PR4 or PR5, the juice from it is huge.

    While analyzing some pharma site I found some links from a Perl wiki that is PR6 page on PR9 domain. By itself the page would have been lower PR because it was buried in the wiki so mods don't find it and delete it and had thousands of links to it built by the pharma guys.
     
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    Both are important actually but the page on which the link appear has its own importance. In case the page on which the link is to be placed has no PR then you
    should consider the PR of the domain.
     
  16. daveguy

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    I aggree. Good post.

    Do you ever worry about the webmaster noticing all the new spammy links to his website though? If he's slighty tech savy he'll notice all the links being sent to that 1 page and probably delete it. No?

    I'm just hung up on this. Can't decide if all that work I did for those high PR guest posts is worth the risk of "building up the page." They already give you such a huge boost as it is.
     
  17. webhost

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    Link page rank is more important for improving our website.
     
  18. madoctopus

    madoctopus Supreme Member

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    No. Because:

    1. I build low quality links not necessarily spammy links.
    2. Usually I do this on PR6+ sites that have tens of thousends of pages. You think the webmaster of bbc.co.uk for example spends time to analize the incoming links? They have 21 million indexed pages and 41 million backlinks. My few thousand or 10k+ links pass unnoticed very easy.