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[ShitList] User elner selling stolen images as custom

Discussion in 'The Shit List' started by udt89, Feb 12, 2015.

  1. udt89

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    His FS thread is here:

    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...magento-customization-ecommerce-se-rvice.html

    I ordered 6 images. Within 5 min I was able to find one of the images on another website. After contacting him, the skype convo got a little heated and its my fault but im tired of this happening, he offered $50 refund of $135. I then found a second image he stole, this one was from shutterstock. Then the refund went up to $70, then $100. I then found a THIRD image on web design firm clients page. Thats when he offered a full refund. I told him I was filing a dispute with paypal which I would cancel if he sent me the money or a refund. Then he told me not to post on the thread, which I refused to do. This forum is full of professionals for the most part and the last thing I want to see happen is someone get sued or shut down because this guy is selling them stolen images. Once I wouldnt "promise" to not post on BHW he told me good luck with Paypal and wont send the money.

    The fact he admitted guilt and offered a full refund to only be taken away because I want to protect the community is downright "shitlist" worthy. Now I wasted seven days waiting on these stolen custom images and now $135 of my money is being held hostage.

    Would appreciate some admin help.

    who made these images
    [7:59:07 AM] creative creation: designer did
    [7:59:18 AM] udt89 udt89: yea well I want a refund for everything
    [7:59:23 AM] udt89 udt89: im not going to do business with you
    [7:59:29 AM] creative creation: what?
    [7:59:39 AM] udt89 udt89: you read what I said
    [7:59:40 AM] creative creation: I have done the everything?
    [7:59:45 AM] udt89 udt89: yea you stole the images
    [7:59:46 AM] udt89 udt89: *URL Removed*
    [7:59:53 AM] udt89 udt89: im not paying you for stealing images
    [8:00:01 AM] udt89 udt89: I could do that myself
    [8:00:24 AM] udt89 udt89: so either send me my money back, or I will file paypal dispute and go to BHW tell everyone what you did
    [8:00:33 AM] udt89 udt89: this is bullshit
    [8:00:50 AM] creative creation: u doing business first time?
    [8:01:05 AM] udt89 udt89: im not paying you for stealing images
    [8:01:09 AM] udt89 udt89: ur a hack
    [8:01:33 AM] creative creation: we are did the work, And we are not any stealing the images, we are make it on illustratoro
    [8:01:35 AM] creative creation: i have the files
    [8:01:42 AM] creative creation: who said they are stealing
    [8:01:50 AM] udt89 udt89: look at that link
    [8:01:54 AM] udt89 udt89: its the EXACT image
    [8:02:04 AM] udt89 udt89: EXACT
    [8:03:33 AM] udt89 udt89: do you see it
    [8:04:32 AM | Edited 8:04:36 AM] creative creation: i have look
    [8:04:59 AM] udt89 udt89: yea you're selling me someone elses work
    [8:05:08 AM] udt89 udt89: send me my money back because im not getting sued
    [8:05:45 AM] creative creation: we are not send to you some one else work any.. But we are did the work, how to i refund?
    [8:05:56 AM] creative creation: if you have issue i will be changes
    [8:06:31 AM] udt89 udt89: no
    [8:06:35 AM] udt89 udt89: send me my money back
    [8:06:49 AM] udt89 udt89: I just showed you the exact image you sent me
    [8:06:54 AM] udt89 udt89: i found it using google images, wasn't that hard
    [8:09:51 AM] creative creation: Dear you show me images,But in the google only one images is million you will be get when you will be search,, If you want to changes this images we are change that.
    [8:11:07 AM] udt89 udt89: send me my money back
    [8:12:22 AM] creative creation: sorry we are did our work, how to could i was send money back, if i can't complete your work on time, and can't provide to you work. so i'll refund.. but we are did. i'm also ready to changes
    [8:12:42 AM] udt89 udt89: well if you don't i will file paypal
    [8:12:47 AM] udt89 udt89: tell them that you stole the images
    [8:12:54 AM] udt89 udt89: then go to blackhat world and post there and contact admin
    [8:14:03 AM] creative creation: you can treat me, well its not the good.. we are did the work, we won't stole any image man.. I'm aslo ready for changes but you won't want.. if you need refund i'll refund to you $50.
    [8:14:16 AM] udt89 udt89: no you will refund the whole amount
    [8:14:22 AM] udt89 udt89: if you don't i will do everything i said
    [8:14:25 AM] udt89 udt89: i don't give a shit
    [8:14:29 AM] udt89 udt89: im tired of scammers like you
    [8:14:32 AM] creative creation: sorry man,
    [8:14:39 AM | Edited 8:14:45 AM] creative creation: i did the work i don't pay to you
    [8:14:48 AM] creative creation: full amound
    [8:14:53 AM] udt89 udt89: ok paypal dispute coming
    [8:14:57 AM] udt89 udt89: and im going to BHW now
    [8:15:00 AM] udt89 udt89: with my evidence
    [8:15:07 AM] creative creation: i'm ready to give $50
    [8:15:09 AM] creative creation: if you want
    [8:15:13 AM] udt89 udt89: i hope no one buys from you again
    [8:15:32 AM] creative creation: Really, you are not the god man
    [8:15:42 AM] udt89 udt89: no you sent me an image that isn't yours
    [8:15:46 AM] udt89 udt89: and tlel me you created it
    [8:15:50 AM] udt89 udt89: you obviously didnt
    [8:15:54 AM] udt89 udt89: youre a scammer and a cheat
    [8:16:02 AM] creative creation: and me not the scammer, i'm ready to send $50
    [8:16:04 AM] creative creation: if you need them
    [8:16:06 AM] creative creation: we are work
    [8:16:11 AM] creative creation: i have all ai, psd files
    [8:16:24 AM] udt89 udt89: im loggin into paypal to file dispute
    [8:16:32 AM] creative creation: ok
    [8:16:43 AM] udt89 udt89: so have fun with your locked paypal account
    [8:16:48 AM] udt89 udt89: and now im going to post on BHW
    [8:17:04 AM] udt89 udt89: you will lose more than 135 in business. smart move pal
    [8:17:26 AM] creative creation: its not about $135
    [8:17:42 AM] creative creation: its about the work, i have to pay my designers,, as why i said $50
    [8:17:44 AM] creative creation: i will be refund
    [8:17:51 AM] creative creation: but you won't agree
    [8:17:54 AM] creative creation: its up to you
    [8:18:03 AM] udt89 udt89: they didn't do the work
    [8:18:05 AM] udt89 udt89: they STOLE it
    [8:18:08 AM] udt89 udt89: i just proved it
    [8:18:34 AM] creative creation: well ok sir, as you wish $70 you need let me know, other wise sorry
    [8:18:44 AM] udt89 udt89: nope im going to ruin you
    [8:18:49 AM] udt89 udt89: because youre a bad man
    [8:18:55 AM] creative creation: Ok cool
    [8:18:56 AM] creative creation: let seee
    [8:18:57 AM] creative creation: thanks
    [8:18:58 AM] creative creation: bye
    [8:19:54 AM] udt89 udt89: send me my money NOW
    [8:19:57 AM] udt89 udt89: you scammer
    [8:21:02 AM] creative creation: Me not the scammer, if you want the payment i'll refund to you $70,we are did, if i can't did anything i will be refund full amount.. hope you understand.
    [8:21:16 AM] udt89 udt89: no you should send me the full amount
    [8:21:31 AM] udt89 udt89: im not going to use anything because im not going to search the internet to see if you're copying other images
    [8:23:49 AM] creative creation: Ok well, i also don't want to said use anything.. But you can understand we are did the work.. if you can complete the work and your customer said i don't like so you will be refund to him whole amount? I know you don't do man. But we are give to you instead of $70 $100.. I have lost with you.. but we are refund to you..
    [8:24:39 AM] udt89 udt89: its not like you sent me custom images
    [8:24:40 AM] udt89 udt89: you stole them
    [8:24:45 AM] udt89 udt89: that's it
    [8:24:46 AM] udt89 udt89: trust lost
    [8:26:39 AM] creative creation: ok well, what you think, but we won't stole.. provide me your paypal id I'll to you 100$ and leave it. i'm lost work with you.
    [8:26:55 AM] udt89 udt89: you can send me 120 and that's it
    [8:27:08 AM] udt89 udt89: no forget that, i want the 135
    [8:27:23 AM] udt89 udt89: i know paypal will side with me
    [8:27:28 AM] udt89 udt89: i have had this happen before
    [8:27:35 AM] udt89 udt89: and have won all three times
    [8:28:35 AM] creative creation: you don't need $100? ok well brother now as you wish you can open it dispute i don't said anything. but if you are honest person you can concered with me.. i pay $100 but you won't want.
    [8:28:58 AM] udt89 udt89: because i know paypal will send me the full refund
    [8:29:14 AM] udt89 udt89: as soon as i prove you stole an image you're done
    [8:29:31 AM] udt89 udt89: ive dealt with people like you that have done this
    [8:29:40 AM] udt89 udt89: paypal doesn't take stealing images lightly
    [8:29:44 AM | Edited 8:29:46 AM] creative creation: if don't send so you loss your $135.. but we are agree to refund you $100..
    [8:29:55 AM] udt89 udt89: but i wont lose
    [8:30:01 AM] udt89 udt89: because ive won before
    [8:30:05 AM] udt89 udt89: in exact situation
    [8:30:10 AM] udt89 udt89: three times
    [8:30:21 AM] udt89 udt89: then ill get BHW to help
    [8:30:25 AM] udt89 udt89: theyre better than paypal
    [8:31:35 AM] creative creation: Ok cool brother its good, i hope you won't loose. Well you can think it if you need $100 let me know we are refund to you.. I'm honest so i'm agree to refund.. u see your $35 only. but not see $100.
    [8:31:44 AM] udt89 udt89: *URL Removed*
    [8:31:49 AM] udt89 udt89: custom??????????????
    [8:31:51 AM] udt89 udt89: theres another one
    [8:32:13 AM] udt89 udt89: you fucking kidding me?
    [8:32:53 AM] udt89 udt89: send the 135
    [8:33:58 AM] udt89 udt89: whats your excuse now
    [8:34:01 AM] creative creation: ok well fine, you will be get your $130 within 2-4 business days.. i was leave $5 because paypal cut to me..
    [8:34:16 AM] creative creation: leave me your paypal id
    [8:34:16 AM] creative creation: here
    [8:34:36 AM] udt89 udt89: no i want it TODAY
    [8:34:48 AM] udt89 udt89: how do you explain the shutterstock image
    [8:34:49 AM] udt89 udt89: tell me
    [8:35:37 AM] creative creation: sorry man, i don't have money to my paypal i have to transfer and you will be get your money on given TAT, 2-4 days i'm not run away. I'm agree to refund so please paitent.
    [8:35:50 AM] udt89 udt89: im still filing paypal dispute
    [8:35:56 AM] udt89 udt89: and when i get it ill cancel it
    [8:36:06 AM] creative creation: sorry
    [8:36:10 AM] creative creation: i don't trust to you
    [8:36:14 AM] udt89 udt89: whats youre excuse
    [8:36:16 AM] udt89 udt89: for shutterstock
    [8:36:17 AM] udt89 udt89: tell me
    [8:36:49 AM] creative creation: i don't want to argure more, Please leave me your paypal id you will be get your payment on TAT..
    [8:37:01 AM] udt89 udt89: tell me
    [8:37:11 AM] udt89 udt89: tell me how you sell me a custom image and its for sale on shutterstock
    [8:38:56 AM] creative creation: i don't want to give answers, leave me your paypal id here.
    [8:39:10 AM] udt89 udt89: why
    [8:39:14 AM] udt89 udt89: because you're caught?
    [8:39:52 AM] creative creation: no its not about the caught,. well
    [8:39:59 AM] udt89 udt89: admin@********.com
    [8:40:06 AM] udt89 udt89: ill cancel dispute when i get funds
    [8:40:17 AM] creative creation: so you have open the dispute
    [8:40:19 AM] creative creation: ?
    [8:40:31 AM] udt89 udt89: yes, and i can cancel it at anytime
    [8:40:39 AM | Edited 8:40:44 AM] creative creation: i can send payment, if you can't close
    [8:40:43 AM] udt89 udt89: so when you send the money like you promise i will cancel
    [8:40:45 AM] creative creation: so what i can do?
    [8:40:54 AM] udt89 udt89: answer the dispute
    [8:40:59 AM] udt89 udt89: and offer a refund
    [8:41:05 AM] udt89 udt89: figure it out
    [8:41:07 AM] udt89 udt89: you cant copy this one
    [8:41:24 AM] creative creation: ok let see, you will be get your refund on the given tat
    [8:41:39 AM] udt89 udt89: just send the money
    [8:41:41 AM] udt89 udt89: done with your excuses
    [8:41:53 AM] udt89 udt89: you have plenty of sales on BHW
    [8:42:41 AM] creative creation: ok, but you won't write anything on my thread, and you after get your refund.
    [8:42:57 AM] udt89 udt89: why wouldn't i
    [8:43:03 AM] udt89 udt89: you're dishonest
    [8:43:06 AM] creative creation: and when you get the money you have cancel it my dispute.
    [8:43:20 AM] creative creation: so you will be write too? after get the money
    [8:43:21 AM] creative creation: ??
    [8:44:35 AM] udt89 udt89: just send me my money back
    [8:44:51 AM] creative creation: no after money, if you can write so what i can do?
    [8:44:59 AM] udt89 udt89: i wont write
    [8:45:04 AM] udt89 udt89: but im not waiting 4 days
    [8:45:07 AM] udt89 udt89: or 2
    [8:45:16 AM] udt89 udt89: i have to get real images done
    [8:45:17 AM] creative creation: You promise me u won't write anything on my thread, i refund to you your payment bro, so you won't do please
    [8:45:21 AM] udt89 udt89: and you wasted a week
    [8:45:35 AM] udt89 udt89: so now i lose a week and a half because of you
    [8:45:42 AM] udt89 udt89: and then you tell me to wait 4 days?
    [8:46:23 AM] creative creation: yeah beacuase i'll transfer and i'll refund to you, if possible so i would be send within 24 hours.. but i give 2-4 days maximum.
    [8:49:12 AM] udt89 udt89: *URL Removed*
    [8:50:09 AM] creative creation: ?
    [8:50:17 AM] udt89 udt89: go to the bottom
    [8:50:29 AM] udt89 udt89: look familiar
    [8:50:41 AM] udt89 udt89: you got balls
    [8:50:52 AM] udt89 udt89: tell me why i shouldn't warn the users at BHW
    [8:51:05 AM] udt89 udt89: and have them risk being sued
    [8:51:13 AM] udt89 udt89: because youre lazy
    [8:51:55 AM] udt89 udt89: i could be sued for using these images
    [8:51:59 AM] creative creation: ok, well but i was refund to you, but you won't write anything on my thread, as you promise. Thanks
    [8:52:01 AM] udt89 udt89: do you understand that?
    [8:52:06 AM] udt89 udt89: no i didn't promise
    [8:52:12 AM] creative creation: so you will be write?
    [8:52:15 AM] udt89 udt89: and that was before i found EVERY image on google
    [8:52:20 AM] creative creation: after the refund??
    [8:52:22 AM] udt89 udt89: EVERY single ONE
    [8:52:27 AM] creative creation: tell me that only
    [8:52:31 AM] udt89 udt89: im getting a refund from paypal no matter what
    [8:52:35 AM] udt89 udt89: i don't need it from you
    [8:52:49 AM] udt89 udt89: i have enough proof now to win this easily
    [8:53:15 AM] creative creation: ok fine, so you could do not want your money, well its up to you now, i have ready to refund but you said you will be write review on my thread
    [8:53:29 AM] creative creation: so write it.. and let see what paypal said then..
    [8:54:11 AM] udt89 udt89: you told me to wait 4 days
    [8:54:15 AM] udt89 udt89: i don't see money in my account
    [8:55:22 AM] creative creation: yeah i said, i will be transfer to bank and you will be get your money within 4 days.. But i want first your promise, after refund you won't write it anything on my thread. that it
    [8:55:50 AM] udt89 udt89: why
    [8:55:59 AM] udt89 udt89: know what, fuck it
    [8:56:04 AM] udt89 udt89: ill let paypal handle it
    [8:56:10 AM] udt89 udt89: and im gonna warn BHW
    [8:56:22 AM] udt89 udt89: id rather lose 135 than have you fuck over someone at BHW
    [8:56:34 AM] creative creation: Ok, now leave it
    [8:56:37 AM] creative creation: let see
    [8:56:43 AM] udt89 udt89: not even worried
    [8:56:55 AM] udt89 udt89: i saved all the links of your stolen image
    [8:57:02 AM] udt89 udt89: next ill contact each person you stole from
    [8:57:07 AM] udt89 udt89: give them your email
    [8:57:19 AM] udt89 udt89: you messed with the wrong guy
    [9:01:25 AM] udt89 udt89: posted
    [9:17:08 AM] udt89 udt89: are you not sending payment? because im going to post a shitlist thread
    [9:21:52 AM] udt89 udt89: i take it your silence means you don't care, shitlist being posted
    [9:23:38 AM] creative creation: man i already said i don't have payment in paypal
    [9:23:41 AM] creative creation: so i ask 2-4 days
    [9:23:45 AM] creative creation: but you have posted
    [9:24:00 AM] creative creation: on my thread
    [9:24:09 AM] udt89 udt89: yea and youre gonna get banned because you offered a refund and now took it back because i posted
    [9:24:15 AM] udt89 udt89: doesn't work that way pal
    [9:25:17 AM] udt89 udt89: going to try to extort me with my own money to keep my mouth shut? nice try pal
    [9:26:14 AM] creative creation: dear i don't trying anything wrong with you.. i 'm ready for refund, but you have posted so that its not the good. i said i refund within 2-4 days.. but you have posted. they are good????
    [9:26:25 AM] udt89 udt89: i don't understand you
    [9:26:36 AM] udt89 udt89: take responsibility for what you did
    [9:26:46 AM] udt89 udt89: you got caught, deal with it
    [9:27:12 AM] creative creation: No i won't caught, its not about the caught man.
    [9:27:26 AM] udt89 udt89: you tried selling me images that weren't yours to use
    [9:27:55 AM] udt89 udt89: i don't care if its your "designers" its your job to check your product
    [9:28:46 AM] udt89 udt89: if i wanted to steal images i wouldn't pay someone to do it, id do it myself. i paid you to make something custom. do i need to send you the definition of the word custom?
    [9:30:08 AM] udt89 udt89: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/custom
    [9:31:17 AM] udt89 udt89: http://www.merriam-webster.com/inter?dest=/dictionary/unique
    [9:31:24 AM] creative creation: ok well we will be care about that.. let me know brother that, you will remove your post after refund or not?
    [9:31:45 AM] udt89 udt89: i will edit it saying refund issued
    respond to the paypal claim then
    [9:33:30 AM] creative creation: Ok you will be write it now need my refund.. and i'll refund to you within 2-4 days as i promised to you.
    [9:34:54 AM] udt89 udt89: not till i have my money
    [9:35:00 AM] udt89 udt89: too bad
     
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    OldSalt Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    elner has been notified he has 48 hours to respond.

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    PS. Reminder to all who have current issues, keep it PROFESSIONAL. No name calling or other insults.
    Reminder to everyone else:
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    If you are not directly related to the situation, or are not offering information directly related to the situation: do not post in the thread.
     
  3. elner

    elner BANNED BANNED

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    Hi, Okay I will be refund within 2-3 Business days. Also i have take a serious action about my designer what he did in this job.

    Elner
     
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    Today is business day 4.....5 if you include day I asked for a refund.
     
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    Elner has 24 hours to refund or he will be temp banned until he does.

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    i know im a half hour early, but elner hasnt responded to me asking why he hasnt refunded me and I do not have a refund. paypal dispute still active and he hasnt responded there
     
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    Don't bother. this guy wont refund. he has also ripped me off for $130. in skype he basically told me to forget my money !!!
     
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    @Clickj4ck, Show me the skype logs on that please. You can post them in here, just remove any personal info.

    Elner (Creative Creations) told me via skype that he would be refunding udt89 on the 21st. He will now be temp banned until that point. I have put a temp ban for 7 days, and if he doesn't have udt89 refunded within that time, I will perma-ban him.

    Once I see the skype logs from clickj4ck, we will go forward with that.

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    This guys is truly an ignorant person. He lied to me 4 times! He even sent me some fake proof (scraped codes) which i clocked on straight away. I asked him dozen of times whether he has started the project or not and he said yes to all of them. After 8 days of wasting my time... he messaged me and said he can't do the job and i have to wait few days until he can refund. Well obviously i knew he was bsing so i asked my money to be paid on the same day. This is what he replied "if you want your money so you can chill man ok... otherwise u won't get it any money. as I said I will be send 2 days so I will be sent." . So i told him i will apply thorough paypal and this is what he replied "ok do it if you don't want money then do it. "

    Honestly i don't see the point waiting for this guy to reply back. I'm sure he doesn't give a crap about his BHW account and I'm sure he won't refund the money

    skype Convo :
    I'll send to you within couples of hours
    [18/02/2015 12:29:35] Me: if i dont receive decent coding by couple of hours
    [18/02/2015 12:29:41] Me: i'll will cancel this order
    [18/02/2015 12:29:51] Me: today is the 6th business day
    [18/02/2015 15:38:21] Me: hello
    [18/02/2015 15:38:22] Me: ?
    [18/02/2015 17:16:30] Me: if i don't get anything within 2 - 3 hours i will cancel this order
    [18/02/2015 17:16:34] Me: apply to get my money back
    [18/02/2015 17:16:43] Me: also do shitlist on bhw
    [18/02/2015 19:15:05] creative creation: Hi, sorry you will be get your money next 2 business days because developer can't customize your website functions..
    [18/02/2015 19:15:20] Me: no i want my money today
    [18/02/2015 19:15:24] Me: you already have wasted
    [18/02/2015 19:15:27] Me: 8 days
    [18/02/2015 19:15:37] Me: i had lots of plans for this
    [18/02/2015 19:16:00] Me: decline the money and send it back
    [18/02/2015 19:16:43] creative creation: isn't possible you will be wait 2 days and get your money
    [18/02/2015 19:16:52] Me: no
    [18/02/2015 19:16:55] Me: you said that to the other guy
    [18/02/2015 19:17:02] Me: you are ripping people off
    [18/02/2015 19:17:23] Me: either you send the money right now
    [18/02/2015 19:17:29] Me: or i will also open a case
    [18/02/2015 19:17:33] Me: and shit list on bhw
    [18/02/2015 19:18:05] creative creation: if you want your money so you can chill man ok... otherwise u won't get it any money. as I said I will be send 2 days so I will be sent.
    [18/02/2015 19:18:17] Me: lol
    [18/02/2015 19:18:21] Me: okay thats it
    [18/02/2015 19:18:30] Me: you already have a case with other guy
    [18/02/2015 19:18:37] Me: i will apply through paypal
    [18/02/2015 19:18:39] Me: ;)
    [18/02/2015 19:18:57] Me: you have wasted 8 days
    [18/02/2015 19:18:59] creative creation: ok do it if you don't want money then do it.
    [18/02/2015 19:19:06] Me: i'll will do it
    [18/02/2015 19:19:10] Me: and lets see who wins
    [18/02/2015 19:19:20] creative creation: sure!

    The only reason that i trusted and paid him in full was due to the fact that he was a BHW Jr . BHW should have much more strict rules when promoting users with Jr. its the 2nd time that i've been ripped of by BHW member. I won't trust them anymore.
     
  10. clickj4ck

    clickj4ck Regular Member

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    Oh btw i spoke to paypal people and they told me if couple of people complain , they will take serious action on him and refund all the money and close his paypal account.

    Im sure most of the people that paid for his service have been ripped off. He must've copied from somewhere.
    Oldsalt can you please post on his TH .. asking people that have purchased his service to check their content and if its copied content ... claim a paypal dispute.
     
  11. udt89

    udt89 Regular Member

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    He has until the 22nd to respond to paypal. The 21st is a Saturday. If he can refund me on a Saturday he should be able to refund me today as another non business day doesnt matter. He should still be permabanned for making me wait for the paypal dispute to mature.
     
  12. naldi1994

    naldi1994 Newbie

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    this user scammed me too for $155. I have waited more than one week for his response and he isn't replying to my messages anymore. I also demand a full refund from him
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  13. clickj4ck

    clickj4ck Regular Member

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    Naldi Have you opened a paypal dispute ? If you haven't make sure you do
     
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    naldi1994 Newbie

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    he scammed me telling me to open a dispute and then cancel it because he couldn't withdraw the payment. In this way he could get the payment much faster and would start the work faster. now he doesn't even respond to me anymore on skype or email so I need the help of a bhw mod
     
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  15. clickj4ck

    clickj4ck Regular Member

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    Call paypal. also if you used your cc block the transaction.
     
  16. naldi1994

    naldi1994 Newbie

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    is any mod taking care of this scammer because I want my money back. I trusted him as a member of bhw
     
  17. udt89

    udt89 Regular Member

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    Finally got my money back. Not from elner but from paypal bc he never responded to my claim. Total time wasted with this bum 17 days. Guy is a total loser and I hope he stays banned. I also hope more people file claims.
     
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    OldSalt Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    I have lifted the temp ban on Elner a few hours before it would have expired. I am giving him 24 hours to respond to the SL with the status and his plan on how to make it right.

    Failing that, he will be perma-banned.

    OS
     
  19. naldi1994

    naldi1994 Newbie

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    I still haven't been refunded from this seller. he owes me $155
     
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    elner BANNED BANNED

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    Sorry to all, I'm on vacation so i won't be respone to on Paypal so udt89 got his refund, Also Clickj4c got his refund to, Please confirm it here. And Naldi1994 Your refund has been proceed you will be get your payment soon, Really sorry about this distrubness about developer/designers. But i have take a serious action about it.

    If you have any issue Post it here we will be reply ASAP.

    Thanks