Hi,
I am not the kind of person who like to open a shitlist and prefer to wait a long time to resolve but it's been months and I am still waiting for my refunds and ExtraWinner has not replied to my messages in the last 4 weeks and I haven't seen him online anymore in Skype.
I bought a few things from ExtraWinner, 4 wikipedia links and 1 Egobait, both threads are closed by BZ as a lot of people has the same problems as me. Either ExtraWinner didnt deliver or wikipedia links are deleted. I am not sure why there is no shitlist yet so here I am with a shitlist.
Wikipedia links: ExtraWinner had refunded 1 order of the wikipedia link and I am waiting for the other 3.
Egobait: ExtraWinner had done some work in the begin then he promised me updates the nothing. I only got a mail with choices and an infographic which I don't know what he has done with it. I told him if I did't get any updates more than I would ask a refund which I did ask without any response from him.
I have contacted bz for advice a few days ago but maybe he is busy or not available as I haven't received any reply yet.
Threads:
http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...uthority-protection-juice-100-guaranteed.html
http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...e-optimization-limited-15-customers-only.html
ExtraWinner profile:
http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/members/120153-extrawinner.html
Chatlog:
Emails with him:



I am not the kind of person who like to open a shitlist and prefer to wait a long time to resolve but it's been months and I am still waiting for my refunds and ExtraWinner has not replied to my messages in the last 4 weeks and I haven't seen him online anymore in Skype.
I bought a few things from ExtraWinner, 4 wikipedia links and 1 Egobait, both threads are closed by BZ as a lot of people has the same problems as me. Either ExtraWinner didnt deliver or wikipedia links are deleted. I am not sure why there is no shitlist yet so here I am with a shitlist.
Wikipedia links: ExtraWinner had refunded 1 order of the wikipedia link and I am waiting for the other 3.
Egobait: ExtraWinner had done some work in the begin then he promised me updates the nothing. I only got a mail with choices and an infographic which I don't know what he has done with it. I told him if I did't get any updates more than I would ask a refund which I did ask without any response from him.
I have contacted bz for advice a few days ago but maybe he is busy or not available as I haven't received any reply yet.
Threads:
http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...uthority-protection-juice-100-guaranteed.html
http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...e-optimization-limited-15-customers-only.html
ExtraWinner profile:
http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/members/120153-extrawinner.html
Chatlog:
[4-7-2013 0:06:20] B*** ExtraWinner: Hi Mate, how are you?
[4-7-2013 8:33:38] cesarian: hi
[4-7-2013 8:33:44] cesarian: u there?
[4-7-2013 8:42:35] B*** ExtraWinner: Hi, I am now
[4-7-2013 8:42:38] B*** ExtraWinner: How are you?
[4-7-2013 8:42:45] cesarian: I am fine, u?
[4-7-2013 8:43:53] B*** ExtraWinner: yeah, tired but good
[4-7-2013 8:44:34] cesarian: can you give me update on my wikipedia orders?
[4-7-2013 8:45:05] B*** ExtraWinner: ah yeah, the orders. I was waiting for you to discuss about them.
[4-7-2013 8:46:09] B*** ExtraWinner: There is small issue - your urls after our recent crackdown are on watch list - it means whenever we post a link - admin get notified so he will check the page and remove the link.
So I was wondering if you have other websites we could submit them to.
[4-7-2013 8:47:21] cesarian: I have only 1 site now that I want the link on wikipedia, and it's also a dutch site, I don't have other websites at the moment
[4-7-2013 8:47:46] B*** ExtraWinner: ok, can you link me?
[4-7-2013 8:47:47] B*** ExtraWinner: I will check it
[4-7-2013 8:48:10] cesarian: ****REMOVED****
[4-7-2013 8:48:20] cesarian: if possible I would like to use the keyword ****REMOVED****
[4-7-2013 8:48:44] B*** ExtraWinner: you didnt gave us this link before?
[4-7-2013 8:49:46] cesarian: no
[4-7-2013 8:49:49] cesarian: its new
[4-7-2013 8:50:14] cesarian: I mean not a new site, but new in my seo portfolio
[4-7-2013 8:50:18] B*** ExtraWinner: yeah, I didnt seen it before. OK, I can build links later tpday no problem.
[4-7-2013 8:50:30] B*** ExtraWinner: We will start from here and move onwards
[4-7-2013 8:51:10] B*** ExtraWinner: btw - sorry for issues with communication - I went to the village to visit my family and we got cut off the web :/ I had to use mobile phone as router to check email
[4-7-2013 8:51:57] cesarian: np, ok, this is for one site, how about the other 3?
[4-7-2013 8:52:06] cesarian: I don't have any websites anymore
[4-7-2013 8:52:14] B*** ExtraWinner: BTW - the onsite have to be changed on this site... It can get penalty.
[4-7-2013 8:52:30] B*** ExtraWinner: Yeah, we will start with this and I will check other 3 today to.
[4-7-2013 8:52:54] cesarian: and what do you mean by penalty?
[4-7-2013 8:54:34] B*** ExtraWinner: Its just that onsite is extremaly bad - you might get penalized for it - drop or lose rankings.
[4-7-2013 8:55:07] cesarian: you mean the over use of keywords, bold, etc?
[4-7-2013 8:55:33] B*** ExtraWinner: Especially bottom area of website - to many links and citation spamming.
[4-7-2013 8:55:48] cesarian: I know about that
[4-7-2013 8:55:59] cesarian: already told the owner to remove them
[4-7-2013 8:56:05] B*** ExtraWinner: cool
[4-7-2013 9:00:32] cesarian: what do you mean with "check other 3 today", I though all my urls are on watchlist as you said?
[4-7-2013 9:02:26] B*** ExtraWinner: yeah, I will check if by any chance one of them got removed
[4-7-2013 9:02:30] B*** ExtraWinner: you never know
[4-7-2013 9:02:38] cesarian: ok
[4-7-2013 10:07:20] B*** ExtraWinner: Just small update - I will be posting your link in few hours - with it I will send you EgoBait update and plan to. I will grab some quick nap now and once up I will work on this for you.
[5-7-2013 8:02:31] cesarian: hi
[5-7-2013 8:03:01] cesarian: any updates on the wikipedia links and the egobait plan??
[5-7-2013 9:24:18] B*** ExtraWinner: Hi, sendign egobait in few minutes, I will check on link with my VA
[5-7-2013 10:52:43] B*** ExtraWinner: Hi Cesar, email sent
[5-7-2013 10:55:59] cesarian: hi thanks
[5-7-2013 10:56:02] cesarian: I just read it
[5-7-2013 10:56:44] cesarian: the options, I'll go with option 1
[5-7-2013 11:08:30] B*** ExtraWinner: Ah kk, can you reply to email though? I have so much on my head with Wiki re-posting I dont want to forget it about you.
[5-7-2013 11:09:55] B*** ExtraWinner: ok, gtg - I will talk to you later today, just need to catch quick nap.
[8-7-2013 10:49:25] cesarian: hi u there?
[8-7-2013 10:49:34] cesarian: please let me know when you are online
[9-7-2013 8:48:46] B*** ExtraWinner: Hi, I am online, how are you?
[9-7-2013 8:48:56] cesarian: hi
[9-7-2013 8:49:11] cesarian: any update on the wikipedia orders?
[9-7-2013 8:51:30] B*** ExtraWinner: yeah, actually today we had breakthrough - it seems we cracked recent spam filters and now we can add as many links as we want fairly easy. So I will be working on yours today/
[9-7-2013 8:51:44] cesarian: ok nice
[9-7-2013 8:52:03] cesarian: when do you think you will be able to finish them?
[9-7-2013 8:52:28] B*** ExtraWinner: I will try to finish it today. I have 3-4 hours window of free time - so I will work on it then.
[9-7-2013 8:53:10] cesarian: great thanks
[9-7-2013 8:54:06] B*** ExtraWinner: I plan today/tomorrow update about your order of egobait to.
[9-7-2013 8:54:20] cesarian: ok np
[9-7-2013 8:54:30] cesarian: I'll be online most of days
[9-7-2013 8:54:40] cesarian: so if you have updates, just drop me a message
[9-7-2013 8:55:16] B*** ExtraWinner: Sure, I will
[10-7-2013 8:42:38] cesarian: hi
[10-7-2013 8:42:46] cesarian: please let me know when you are here
[11-7-2013 10:25:06] cesarian: hi
[11-7-2013 10:25:10] cesarian: u there?
[11-7-2013 10:26:19] cesarian: u there?
[11-7-2013 13:33:27] cesarian: u there?
[11-7-2013 14:11:46] cesarian: hi
[11-7-2013 14:11:49] cesarian: u there?
[24-7-2013 10:38:57] cesarian: hi
[24-7-2013 10:39:00] cesarian: u there?
[24-7-2013 11:45:58] cesarian: u there?
[25-7-2013 23:42:51] cesarian: hi
[25-7-2013 23:42:54] cesarian: u there?
[25-7-2013 23:44:11] cesarian: B***?
[25-7-2013 23:52:38] B*** ExtraWinner: Hi Cesarian, I am. I managed to log in to Skype
[29-7-2013 8:52:33] cesarian: hi
[29-7-2013 8:52:37] cesarian: u there?
[29-7-2013 8:53:15] B*** ExtraWinner: Hi Man, yeah, I am in
[29-7-2013 8:53:45] cesarian: how are you?
[29-7-2013 8:56:00] B*** ExtraWinner: I am good, just got back from bachelor evening, how are you?
[29-7-2013 8:56:36] cesarian: I am fine, a bit busy
[29-7-2013 8:58:41] B*** ExtraWinner: ah cool, I am sending report to you today, just finishing up
[29-7-2013 9:00:43] cesarian: ok, great, how about the refund for the wikipedia links?
[29-7-2013 9:02:40] B*** ExtraWinner: ah, I think I never got transaction ID, have you sent it?
[29-7-2013 9:09:03] cesarian: let me see
[29-7-2013 9:09:40] cesarian: it's actually 4 orders:
****REMOVED****
****REMOVED****
****REMOVED****
****REMOVED****
[29-7-2013 9:17:06] B*** ExtraWinner: OK, I will have a look at those then
[29-7-2013 9:18:21] cesarian: ok waiting for refund as it;s been 1.5 month since links are deleted
[29-7-2013 9:24:24] B*** ExtraWinner: sure
[30-7-2013 10:10:53] cesarian: hey B***, u there?
[30-7-2013 12:44:15] B*** ExtraWinner: Hi there, just logged in. How are you?
[30-7-2013 13:27:06] cesarian: hi
[30-7-2013 13:27:08] cesarian: I am fine
[30-7-2013 13:27:11] cesarian: you?
[30-7-2013 15:18:07] cesarian: u there B***?
[31-7-2013 10:37:45] cesarian: hi B***
[31-7-2013 10:37:47] cesarian: u there?
[31-7-2013 15:00:20] B*** ExtraWinner: Hi man, I am in now. It seems we missed each other yesterday
[31-7-2013 15:02:14] cesarian: hi
[31-7-2013 15:02:18] cesarian: yeah
[31-7-2013 15:04:48] B*** ExtraWinner: Hi man, how are you?
[31-7-2013 15:05:41] cesarian: I am fine, how about you?
[31-7-2013 15:06:09] B*** ExtraWinner: Yeah, not bad Mate, working as usual
[31-7-2013 15:31:58] cesarian: have you received my mail?
[31-7-2013 16:20:53] B*** ExtraWinner: Hi man, checking it now
[1-8-2013 14:10:05] cesarian: hi
[1-8-2013 14:10:09] cesarian: u there?
[2-8-2013 10:58:01] cesarian: hi
[2-8-2013 10:58:05] cesarian: u there
[2-8-2013 10:58:07] cesarian: ?
[5-8-2013 0:03:49] cesarian: hi u there?
[5-8-2013 0:06:55] B*** ExtraWinner: Hi, I am
[5-8-2013 0:17:25] B*** ExtraWinner: You are there?
[5-8-2013 10:56:59] cesarian: hi
[5-8-2013 10:57:13] B*** ExtraWinner: Hi there
[5-8-2013 10:57:57] cesarian: thansk for the first refund
[5-8-2013 10:59:54] B*** ExtraWinner: OK, once i get some funds rest will follow
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