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Shared or Dedicated hosting ?

Discussion in 'Web Hosting' started by devilzxtreme, Jun 2, 2012.

  1. devilzxtreme

    devilzxtreme Newbie

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    hello people !

    i am new here and my mind is full of questions. i would really appreciate someone helping me out coz this damn thing is fucking my brains out for the past half year. I want to build a website and the platform will be php5.3 ! so the website will be smiliar to a CMS and will carry info about a city , where people will dicuss about events , movies , universities in the city and everything that makes a city complete. It will have multiple queries extracting and inserting record in mysql db.

    Question ) Will shared hosting work ? or should i go for dedicated hosting or vps or you tell me ?
    Questions ) If i use a always on computer at my place with a blazing fast internet , will it work ?
     
  2. shailzrocks

    shailzrocks Jr. Executive VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    A shared hosting can take care of 4k-8k Visitors per day. How much are you expecting?

    It doesn't if your home PC's internet is fast or slow
     
  3. devilzxtreme

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    4k-8k is my target. the question arises if more than 1k users use the website at the same time will it crash or will lag ?
     
  4. redclover

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    Hello, You can simply use shared hosting and it will not be any problem. I would personally recommend
    hostgator ( Google it ) Because you can buy shared hosting to start and then if your site grows allot later
    you can upgrade it to a vps or dedicated hosting pretty easy. They actually upgrade it for you. Their tech
    support is AAA+

    Hope this helps!
     
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  5. devilzxtreme

    devilzxtreme Newbie

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    ohk !! i have tried hostgator and their services are amazing. that's a nice piece of info redclover !
     
  6. devilzxtreme

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    Will VPS work for me ??? is it good or not ???
     
  7. pavan

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    using computer at your place is a really bad idea unless you are too experienced with it
    you can start with shared hosting first
    and as your site grows and once it gets popular you can shift it to dedicated server

    dedicated servers are costly as compared to shared hosting
    so getting dedicated in very first month will be waste of money
    you wont be using even half of the resources
     
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  8. hpv222

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    Start with sharing hosting and if your site grows, you can move it easily to a VPS or dedicated if you have to - just make sure that you make backups regularly. The only reason to start with dedicated would be if you expect massive surge of traffic right away or your site has huge database, runs "heavy" scripts, etc.
     
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    Use Hostgator shared hosting. They can handle upto 20K visitor per day easily. And you don't have to worry about load balancing. It's the responsibility of the server admin. So no matter how much user are using your website at the same time, there will be no problem.
     
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  10. shudogg

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    Since you don't know whether or not you need shared or a dedi, I would say that your not capable of setting up a server at your house. No offense, just "judging a book by it's cover"... If you were a techy geek that knew how to do that, then you would know what you needed, hence this thread never would have been created.

    If you did choose to setup a server at your house, I would recommend building (or buying) a decently spec machine. An intel quad-core at least (unless you already have a dual core laying around or something), at least 1GB DDR3 RAM, and 100GB SATA hard drive. I know, SATA drives you wont find exact 100GB, just saying at least. While you wont need that much, at the price of drives, just give yourself moderate room. 1GB RAM is plenty for Linux, but if your going to go the Windows (I don't recommend) route, then you would want at least 2GB ram. My recommendation would be Linux because windows sucks for servers, and use CentOS 5.x or greater. 32 or 64 bit doesnt matter, just depends on what processor you have in your rig. You would then need to install apache, php, mysql, phpmyadmin, and a few other things.. There are tutorials laying around. -- If you haven't used linux before, then save yourself the stress and forget it. I just posted this because it might be useful to you someday, or to someone else here.

    Using your own home internet for a server, leaves you open to a lot of issues though. If you are not on a static IP, when your IP changes, your sites will be unreachable and you will have to repoint your nameservers. Which takes hours for it to work properly all around the world. You don't have and decent firewall protection. Real hosting providers, use high end firewalls. I see now, many advertise they are DDOS protected by Cisco Guard. So your talking like what, a $5k or $10k firewall.. Not sure the exact price. So your missing superior security that many hosts have.

    Now onto Shared vs VPS vs Dedi: I personally prefer a VPS or dedi. You have full control over a VPS because you are given root access. A vps is basically a mini dedicated server. You share the CPU (processor) with the other handful of people on the server. They generally don't put nearly as many people on one VPS server as they do shared servers. The good thing with some/most VPS hosts, is that you have unlimited emails per hour, where shared you usually have around a 200-500 emails per hour limit. So if you are doing email marketing, kicking out to a list of 10K people is a pain in the butt and they will get on you for mailing. Interspire can throttle, so you could send to a list of 5k people at 300 per hour (or whatever your limit is). It would take a long time, but shared hosts usually don't put up with it. I have came across VPS hosts that have unlimited emails per hour, and others that have a limit. Just hit or miss, so contact their support and ask before ordering.

    When mailing on a VPS or a dedi, it is good to first check the IP to ensure it isn't blacklisted. If you have already used your domain to mail, ensure the domain isn't blacklisted. If your good there, then ensure you are properly handling bounced emails. Interspire does this. Also it is wise to get on as many feedback loops as you can (yahoo, gmail, hotmail, aol, comcast, road runner, att, ect.) This way, when people click spam (instead of delete) you will get notified from the feedback loop. You then can remove that person who clicks the spam button from your list, and I add them to my blacklist so they definitely will not get anymore emails no matter what. This helps your email relationship with the hosts good as your taking care of complaints. DO NOT import purchased or "borrowed" or scraped lists. They are garbage and will get you into trouble! No repectable marketer does this. Scammers and people who have no real talent do this.

    Another reason to get a VPS or dedi... While someone mentioned hostgator can handle 4k visitors, I beg to differ. Hostgator used to be good, like 4 years ago. NOW, they are garbage. Their servers are slow compared to what they were before, and compared to other decent hosting providers. I will give them, that they have amazing support (phone, support ticket, and their server techs are good). They are nice, and quick, and 24/7. They are anal about emailing, even on a dedicated server paying $375 a month! I provided proof of optin like at least once a month. Just a pain in the ass. Their servers are now crowded, and I have heard more and more of people getting a blacklisted IP address. My advice, is if you were gonna get hostgator despite my review here, then get their middle package. The smallest one is for 1 domain only lmao, their biggest package offers the same as the middle one only you get a 1800 number and a few other things nobody ever uses. They 1800 is good for a very low amount of minutes, after that you have to pay. So its practically useless unless you want to monitor how many minutes your using. So their middle shared hosting package is the best pick imo.

    If you want a pretty decent VPS - check out SolarVPS
    If you want a great dedicated server - check out SingleHop

    If you found this post useful, and want my affiliate link for any of them, send me a PM. That would be kind of you. But I am not trying to abuse this forum, so I leave that to you. If you wanna be kind, cool, if not, oh well Im not worried about a few bucks anyways.
     
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  11. markhenry121

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    I think Use Hostgator shared hosting that is good; they can control lots of visitor per day easily.
     
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    This would really depend on your requirement and how much control you want over your server. If your script and application is small and your traffic is specific to a location then start off with Shared hosting and upgrade gradually.

    But again things would really depend on your requirement.
     
  13. devanhcrow2012

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    ALWAYS go with a dedicated server ... MUCH more control.. even for 1 site.. its worth the money. PM me if you want a personal guide on this.
     
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    If you want to host at least 20 sites with a large volume of daily traffic, dedicated hosting is the best
     
  15. MassiveServers

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    If you do not know if you need a dedicated server or not, then the answer is you DON'T!
    The industry is very standardized as far as web servers go, so if you start out with a shared hosting account, you can upgrade within that company or switch to one of many others.
    You need to check the scripts requirements as some hosts do not allow some functions to run on their shared server that are sometimes used to feed content to your site. Discuss your needs with the rep from your chosen host.
    As for your at home connection, your lightning fast speed always refers to the "download" speed, when you are running a webserver, you are more concerned with the "upload" speed, which is usually a fraction of your download speed.
    As
     
  16. hotkicker

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    Shared hosting.Easy to setup and its cheap!
     
  17. moneycash

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    It is easy to set up.