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Shady method to earn big bucks

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by mathdoc, Jun 2, 2010.

  1. mathdoc

    mathdoc Junior Member

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    I don't know about the morality, legality, or feasibility of this endeavor, but here goes...

    Most people are probably aware of how The Copyright Group is suing 5,000 P2P users for pirating The Hurt Locker. The way it works is that if you are caught pirating, you are sent a letter threatening to be sued for $150,000 unless you immediately settle for a one-time payment of $1,500. It turns out that 90% of people when faced with such a letter opt to pay the $1,500 rather than call the bluff. The Copyright Group then sets up a website for everybody to make their payment and sees the money roll in (5,000 x .9 x 1,500 = $6.75 million) without actually having to take very many people to court. In this spirit I offer the following:

    Upload something (to which you own the copyright...an ebook, a video tutorial, whatever) to a popular bit torrent tracker. When people start downloading it make a note of their IP. Then, a la The Copyright Group, send them a letter threatening to sue them for $150,000 unless they settle for $1,500. Make the wording in your letter similar to the wording The Copyright Group uses (you can find their letter online). Set up a website to accept their payment and watch the money roll in.
     
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  2. bobbylove321

    bobbylove321 BANNED BANNED

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    If it's content that YOU own, then I don't see what could be "illegal" about this, however, I wouldn't say "$1,500" or "$150,000", make it more realistic:

    Pay $10,000 for copyright, or settle within 30 days for $500.

    Personally, I wouldn't do this method period.
     
  3. mathdoc

    mathdoc Junior Member

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    I don't think my conscience would let me do it either. But yes, it's important that you own the copyright.
     
  4. haverox

    haverox Regular Member

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    wow, that's pretty heavy

    I don't think that I could personally do this as the way to have the most success with this would be to target average internet users not us "IM'ers" but as long as you don't get caught uploading it this looks totally legal.
     
  5. Bartholomew

    Bartholomew Regular Member

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    Good luck with sueing.
    Anyway, the more copyfags sue, the more casual people will turn to strong anonymous p2ps like freenet or perfectdark/
     
  6. whiteninja

    whiteninja Regular Member

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    I don't know if that would work because people know how tenacious the movie and recording industry is in tracking down these offenders but just someone that owns an ebook sending that kind of letter wouldn't seem to have the same effect but who knows. I wouldn't do this either imho.
     
  7. garyrob

    garyrob Newbie

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    I think whiteninja is perfectly on point.

    If we leave ethics aside for a moment, it seems obvious to me that most adults regard the idea of suing a person in another country as..............pointless. It would be incredibly cost prohibitive.

    I've had banks send me letters asking me to release specific domains that sounded like their bank name.

    In short, I complied....but......if the request came from an individual, as opposed to a public company.....well......ah......... you see where I'm going with this.

    I suggest moving on to another strategy.
     
  8. homenet

    homenet Power Member

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    Am I the only one missing something here?

    How do you plan to get their address from their ip address? Good luck with that one.
     
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  9. xenoz

    xenoz Regular Member

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    Black.....

    ..... Hat.....
     
  10. cyanide

    cyanide Junior Member

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    Lol that's freakin evil! I like the way you think OP.
     
  11. unzero

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    this is so "evil", I couldn't sleep at night
     
  12. cyanide

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    I don't really see the logic in "Hey you just stole our copyrighted material fill out this offer to win an iPad or we'll sue."
     
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  13. mathdoc

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    That's exactly why I questioned the feasibility of this. You would have to use the same process The Copyright Group and other anti-P2P groups use. I don't know how it works...it would take some research.
     
  14. cyanide

    cyanide Junior Member

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    You're supposed to be a corporate lawyer or something.. corporations don't have hearts remember.
     
  15. crebbz

    crebbz Junior Member

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    Lmao, genius.
     
  16. mathdoc

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    Well presumably you're not uploading child pornography so your claim would be patently false (and I'm guessing quite illegal). And since the accused never actually watched child pornography they'd know you're running a scam and very likely wouldn't pay a dime.
     
  17. mathdoc

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    I'd rather have the money.
     
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  18. cyanide

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    You are taking this much too far.
     
  19. Jason_parker700

    Jason_parker700 Regular Member

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    Neither you are supposed to talk about hacking related stuff, neither childporn. It's against the rules.
     
  20. Makbeth

    Makbeth Newbie

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    Well im not sure this would work. If you make something available for download, and you own the copyright, then its fair game. Its if someone else makes it available for download that you could have a case. Also, you can only sue for the value of the media that was downloaded. Movies and musicians get away with huge numbers because they can claim compensation for the work done(ie:cost of production) rather than final value of the product. You may also go to jail if you try this, what with fraud being illegal and all.