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Several Sites stuck on the second page. Advice?

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by MyGirlfriendIsaPBN, Oct 6, 2016.

  1. MyGirlfriendIsaPBN

    MyGirlfriendIsaPBN Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Hey Folks,

    I've been building some smaller niche sites and I've noticed a bit of a trend that's been occurring the last 2 months. All the sites i've been building rise at a fast rate but remain stuck on the second page and refuse to move no matter what I throw at them. I'm not use to being stuck on the second page for this long and its driving me nuts at this point. Heres a reference to what im dealing with:


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    My on page is on point, my anchors are diversified, and my content is unique. Is their something I'm not seeing? What do you guys suggest I do?
     
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  2. Fear2403

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    write 5-10 post directly revelant to product and link to the money page.You can try to send social signal to PBN post as well.
     
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    You must beat the competitors of your site by analyzing their site and know their primary keyword or what they use to get rank, then build some backlinks with that keyword more and more. This will help to get rank on the first page. Also, articles matter to get the rank. That is use more than 500-word articles on your site.
    Hope it helps. :)
     
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    Just do competitor analysis by using Ahrefs and get the backlinks and referral domains. Here you can get the idea about their link building strategies. Link your website to high authority sites. Otherwise you can use PBN, it is very effective in getting rank on google pages.
     
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    i am on the same boat too. low volume keywords are in first page but not high volume.
     
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  6. judaculla

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    Ive had success in getting past psge 2 and 3 by using a blast of social signals to moneysite, and a blast of double tier links to tier 1 pbn links, using a broad spectrum of related keywords.

    Semrush is great for finding competitor related keywords.

    Also, i had a site stuck on page three for awhile, that almost instantly hit pg1 after i started publishing new content on it again.
     
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  7. MyGirlfriendIsaPBN

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    Thanks for the reply boys, really appreciate it! I've tried all of the above recommendations. Let me breakdown my entire game and maybe you guys will catch something that im not seeing.

    The homepage of each one of these sites is 2500 words with 30-50 posts on each site. The content is also unique and good quality. Each post ranges anywhere from 500-1000 words that link back to the main homepage.

    In terms of link building strategy, my tier 1 is a mixture of PBNS, Web 2.0, a few profile links, relevant forum links and some social signals. For tier 2, i shortened the T1 urls and then built 50-100 web 2.0 properties. I Took it a step further and shortened T2 and then blasted it with GSA. Content used throughout the Tiers is unique and good quality as well.

    I ran my competitors under ahrefs and from what i can tell (unless they are blocking their backlinks and ahrefs is not catching it) the link profile is trash with forum links and directories. The way things are looking, my link profile is three times better than my competitors.

    I have a network of roughly 50 PBN sites that have been used on each one of these sites im trying to rank and I think the problem might be there, not %100 sure though. I have anchors set at %5 exact match with rest being LSI keywords and naked urls.

    It's driving me up the wall at this point. The sites rise like no tomorrow in the serps and then halt on page 2 lol. What do you guys think?
     
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    sounds exactly like my scenario, what are the metrics for your money site?
     
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  9. judaculla

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    Domain age plays a role, check the comp vs yours. Its just a factor though, not a dealbreaker for google. Might just help explain the halt. Id try some social signals to warm things up. Your links sound baller, unless youve got just shit sites on your pbn-but you sound like you know wjat youre doing.

    I had a site awhile back that took 4-6 months to get from page 2 to page 1. Once it did though, it hit 1-3 for most keywords, and now ranks other keywords quickly.

    Find your zen, it sounds like your gtg-although without knowing keuword specifics obviously its hard to say with complet confidence.
     
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  10. Aatrox

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    In the same boat as you with a few sites. And as a guy above said about domain age, in my situation, they are not very much aged. Still don't know what to try next since I'm basically throwing money on these websites and they just won't fucking get pass second page. And most of them is low competition.
     
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  11. theyarasa

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    are there any errors on your pages / sites that google SC identifies?

    The content seems long enough but how is it structured? headings and titles; are they targeting the correct keywords?
     
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  12. MyGirlfriendIsaPBN

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    It's killing me at this point and I'm getting tired of adding new content and building links when Im seeing no return. My sites are all aged between 4-6 months to put things into perspective.
     
  13. MyGirlfriendIsaPBN

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    Nope, zero error messages on SC. My sites also have different SC accounts with different emails and numbers. In terms of the content's heading, my target keyword is mentioned in my H1 and H2 tags with LSI keyowrds in H3.

    This is what my first initial thought was. I know it takes a bit of time moving from page 2 to 1 but when multiple sites all show the same serp behavior and pattern, something has to be up right?
     
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    You need to acquire some powerful backlinks that will catapult your site into the first page. For starters, why don't you dig deep and find out the link profiles of your first page competition? That's your starting point.
     
  15. Fear2403

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    how many PBN per site now?Try to send more PBN.I have same situation and still test :D
     
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  16. rizumarian

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    They are a large list of factors that can be involved here , try to check your keyword density, your anchor test distribution compared with the top 10. I would keep building high quality backlinks for while and I see after.
     
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  17. MyGirlfriendIsaPBN

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    12-17 on each site. Like I mentioned earlier, theirs 50 PBN sites that were made specifically for these 5 sites and this project ive been working on. I can always toss 50 links to each site but that would be a fairly big foot print of every site linked out to the same 5 sites lol.


    theirs something interesting when I check my top 5 competitors anchors. The focus keyword I'm trying to rank for is anchored in at a whopping %30 from competitors. I ran a test a month ago where I changed the anchors of 2 my sites to match what my competition was doing. The 2 sites ended up dropping heavily and regained their position when I changed the anchors back.
     
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    Any chance your pages are over-optimised for their keywords?

    Any duff links that need removed/disavowed? Regardless of the competitors' shit links - what's their age/other links like?

    You tried SAPE to your T1s? I did to a huffpo post and saw massive increases/ removed it and pointed it directly at the MS and saw good increases but not as much - food for thought.

    Can you send me your URL (I'm trustworthy, I'll sign an NDA if you wish) - I just hate stuff like this, I want to try and help. No problem if you don't want to, I'm not going to use your kws, I have far too many projects to keep me busy for the next 100 years.
     
  19. Fear2403

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