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serving notice papers - how serious ?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by inkus, Jan 14, 2014.

  1. inkus

    inkus Newbie

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    Hi BHW fellows, not too long a friend of mine opened a replica watch online store and before he even sold anything this serving notice from Chanel has appeared on the website: servingnotice .com/ctp5/ . Now he tried to contact the Chanel's lawyer on the case through his email and explain that no sales were ever made and etc but received no reply... Now how serious is this, what are the chances of Chanel really going after him and what would be the best way to go about it considering:

    1. No sales were ever made on the website.
    2. He deleted all the content and files from the host.
    3. Never provided real information when registering the domain and the host.
    4. He lives in Canada and not USA.

    Thank you all in advance for any good suggestions and advice from any of you that are experienced in such issues!
     
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  2. lucasbraydon

    lucasbraydon Supreme Member

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    Chanel are probably already out there looking for YOU right now. They even know that it had nothing to do with a "friend" and your the real culprit. So make sure you lock the toilet door.
     
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  3. jazzc

    jazzc Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    And don't forget to buy a soap bracelet.
     
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    "Your friend" is basically fucked.
     
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  5. inkus

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    Any serious and costructive answers, please? Just trying to help him out..
     
  6. meathead1234

    meathead1234 Moderator Staff Member Moderator Premium Member

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    a) never reply to a legal notice without consulting a lawyer
    b) your friend admitted guilt (by being associated with the site) so is an idiot
    c) your friend asked you for advice and you are now asking here, ergo you are also an idiot.
     
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  7. jazzc

    jazzc Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    A homomorphism of your username is "sukin" - whoops :)
     
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  9. bananaman5000

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    not sure what the penalty is for attempting to sell replicas. you didn't sell any so you could claim it was informational content, and purchases weren't meant to happen. you just chose the shopping cart format because it looked the way you wanted it too...

    lol

    i doubt they will hire lawyers at $400 an hour to come get you for selling nothing. but, maybe its the feds, they don't care about wasting money/time.
     
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    Joke don't worry about it. Just change banks after they get a judgement
     
  11. maineyak

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    lol@a friend. Love how noobs think they can come on here and bs people.
     
  12. lucasbraydon

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    What does he wear to bed? Why? Chanel No.5 and a soap bracelet of course.
    Coco made him do it :p
     
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    meathead1234 raises a very good point here.
    If you're ever sent legal papers that aren't signed on delivery, throw them away. If you are sent legal papers that require a signature on delivery, depending on the country, you can frequently just refuse to sign for it (refuse to take delivery) anyway.

    If you do sign for legal papers, always consult a lawyer before responding.
    Even if you think you're resolving the problem.
     
  14. Phrancis

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    Tell your friend to stop using whatever computers he was using to do tht sh*t for the meantime - this days, if dudes want to track u, they no longer use IPs, thats old school. They track u using your Harddisk ID/No, and computer's motherboard info. He should never login to that host again, no matter what. Before he decides to no login, he should delete all payment information that can track back to him. Maybe he should even change his ISP too (to be on the safer side).

    But going all this length when he didn't even sell a thing... jeez! I'll tell you what, they (Chanel) already know what's up, that he aint sold anything yet (before they contacted him, they probably already contacted the host with a subpoena or something similar to push a threat on them, so they maybe already ratted him out...).


    He should stop trying such things. That my friend, is PURE SCAM! If he had sold anything and they wanted to go after him.... o boi...
    The cops could come after him too. And you his friend should delete this thread! They could get you and get him through you.

    DON'T BE TOO SCARED THOUGH.
     
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    Yeah, that's totally wrong.
    Chanel certainly don't have any hardware serial identification numbers from your friends PC.
     
  16. inkus

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    He replied through an email.
     
  17. inkus

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    Thats what I was thinking as well, why would they go to such lenghts for nothing... And plus there were over 50 other website on the case , so how feasable would it be for them to go after every single one?
     
  18. inkus

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    Why would he try to even call when the lawyer hasnt evn responded to his email. And moreover is it even agood idea to contact him directly like that without his own lawyer?
     
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  20. the_demon

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    I'm not sure, but in order for them to claim any serious judgement against you, I'd think they would need to prove you derived profit from the site in order to collect damages. Otherwise, you could probably claim the site was simply a test domain for practicing web design and there was never any intent to sell the merchandise.

    All in all if you take the website down they are unlikely to pursue you.

    ** I am not a lawyer, the above is not legal advise, just general commentary. Always consult an attorney for legal advise. **
     
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