Service's on BHW Just Keep Getting Cheaper and Cheaper [PROBLEM]

There are some serversies here that offer chep but quality is good, so a new marketer could try out there site with out selling out 100's of dollar so do not find any problem with it . if services are unacceptable to newbie then the marketing will be confined to those who are ready to whip out dollars, one more thing if the seller is doing a bad job there will be negative reviews and he is the one who losses the customer.

reallife said:

I agree for the most part (there are a few exceptions, for example BB sometimes just says "approved" without any other comments.)
My question is, since we have no way of knowing, are there many BSTs that are rejected on a regular basis when the package doesn't perform well for a mod? Or are BST's usually just approved if they pay the fee and supply the links promised without regard to the quality?

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In terms of backlinks or seo services we mods are approving threads based on the reports and not based on the results. When I say just "Approved" ,It means seller provided the service as described in his sales page with no results. I use to write few more words review, if that service really provided results.

I have noticed this problem long time ago. More than a year ago you could easily find quality services by just looking at the post count on their thread. Good quality services usually had lots of reviews and orders.

What we see today is just new sales threads popping out with usually super fancy designs. Because of many new threads there aren't that many buyers for each thread so they don't have any reviews. The only way to find out the quality is service is only by risking your money and rankings.

I think the problem solver could be some modern review system where each buyer has to leave a review or at least the rating.
The MOD review should also be more descriptive especially about the results. If there were no results or even negative ones then write that.

in my opanion there are not much quality sellers here. I will say less than 5 sellers knows seo really well.
Actually dont hear me coz in that case BHW BST will have like 20 services. LOL

What you are guys are criticizing is the Kane's hand which is inherent of the capitalism and regulate the market.

The BST sections is a micro system under the same capitalism's laws in market regulation : cheap, expensive, crap, quality you'll find it all. There is a reason why governement are forbidden to do interventionism in their own markets. You'll end up having templated product with less to no innovations. THink it that way, if only one car builder would have been allowed to sell cars, do you think you would have air cooling, radio player, electric windows, lether siege ? No, you would still have horses to make it move forward and a plastic siege.

Here are a few marketing basics :

The first to talk : he will always be the referral of the market and can charge more for the same quality. If you can afford to be first, this is the best slots as people have genuinely nothing to refer to, in order to evaluate the true value of your service.

Followers : to be heard they have to be agressive on the price or outbeat the referral quality which would make look themselves inexpensive compared to the first. But they WILL BE ALWAYS COMPARED TO THE REFERRAL .


There is a day where the first to talk would be outranked by its competitors if he relies on what he achieved. In order to avoid that, there are 2 solutions, either lower the price too even though he can afford to remain more expensive or INNOVATE !! And there is the key! The first to talk has more cash to do so so he has the best hand.

I'm just pulling out marketing basics to point out that attemtping to regulate and pushing in favor of successive monopolies would actually impact the quality and diversity of services in mid-long term.
I know Google is your model but still ...

Most of the services on all these forums are junk, they spit out garbage that will harm you. Even the one's who promise quality usually have terrible, terrible content and obvious patterns. I can think of 3 maybe 4 services on here that are quality and I've bought most of them either here or on other forums

I always buy for a tier 1 site first so I can be sure that its good enough for a money site.

WizGizmo said:

It is a Marketplace, and like all marketplaces, it has
various products/services, various prices and various
degrees of quality. As a wise shopper, you should
be able to determine which products & services are
best for you.

Cheers! - "Wiz"

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End of the story.

IMHO, people should have the liberty to choose the best option for their budget. Quality is another issue. Mods should take care of the feedbacks from the service buyers.

heres a question if alot of services on bhw are becoming to cheap
what do you do when you have a product that has no competition
but your buyers tell you, you should charge more. ive had that said
to me for 4 yrs.

all sellers have a choice, over charge and be greedy
under charge and work for peanuts
finding a middle ground isnt always easy because what ever
you charge people will complain one way or another .

What the "more regulation!" set never seems to get is that they are asking for someone, somewhere, to please take some -- if not all -- of their power as a consumer away. Regulation that is often asked for for the sake of 'safety' that never yields anything safe. Just a more dependent, less educated, less informed, far more ignorant and developmentally arrested consumer; and, an enriched system of regulation. An enriched system of regulation that, as a system, is ultimately far more difficult, if not impossible, to ever hold accountable or be made responsible.

If a BST service sends one's Suck-O-Meter into the red, one should post as much in the BST's thread. When one sees a BST that is virtually identical to another one already in the marketplace, ask the BST's OP how it differs from their competition. So on and so forth; ergo, etc. etc.

Come on, boys, this shit is Checkers, it ain't Chess. Get your T levels checked... Something, for heaven's sake.

Stop this communist talk. Control, control, more control.
I believe that internet is one of the last lands of freedom. Yes, freedom is demanding, because you're free to make both great decisions & mistakes. But it's still freedom.
The safest place is a single cell in a state prison.
D.

PS.
Sorry for big words but I can't just stand this regulate, control attitude.

dbyrn said:

Stop this communist talk. Control, control, more control.
I believe that internet is one of the last lands of freedom. Yes, freedom is demanding, because you're free to make both great decisions & mistakes. But it's still freedom.
The safest place is a single cell in a state prison.
D.

PS.
Sorry for big words but I can't just stand this regulate, control attitude.

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Take it easy bro.
Think about this, there are no forum rules and moderators on this forum.
Freedom is based on rules too, not totally out of control.

May be we can go with a poll which is Mandatory for every BST thread and we can rate the seller after receiving the result on a scale of 1 to 5.
Then, it would be easy to recognize the Quality, rather than reading entire reviews from the Buyers.

Ok, I'm easy now .
Rules are ok, but why should someone tell what I can buy and what not?
D.

srinu0812 said:

May be we can go with a poll which is Mandatory for every BST thread and we can rate the seller after receiving the result on a scale of 1 to 5.

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There is rate this thread button in place already.
D

dbyrn said:

There is rate this thread button in place already.
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Which doesn't function properly, competition is rating other BST Providers 1 star, I don't know even 1 client who uses it.

dbyrn said:

Ok, I'm easy now .
Rules are ok, but why should someone tell what I can buy and what not?
D.

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It's not about telling you what you can, and cannot buy. It's about making the choice easier.
Would you rather come to a place where you are sure only quality services are being sold, or to a place where there are low quality services and high quality services?

You must be living in utopia. This looks more like a sales argument than in reality

LukaB said:

Would you rather come to a place where you are sure only quality services are being sold, or to a place where there are low quality services and high quality services?

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Under cutting others should be allowed because that's one of main reasons all the iphones are now 199 instead of like 399 when they first came out.

most of the providers build links using automated tools,using spun content (scraped from the net) ,they set the software and that's it.so i think the price is fair,price should be higher only for 100% manual work.

LukaB said:

It's not about telling you what you can, and cannot buy. It's about making the choice easier.

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You are asking BHW (i.e., the system) to pick BST winners and losers in advance of these BST's entry into the marketplace, where winners and losers emerge organically.

Would you rather come to a place where you are sure only quality services are being sold, or to a place where there are low quality services and high quality services?

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If someone is cloning your BST and offering it for a cheaper price, but your BST is qualitatively better, don't you think the truth will out?


I just don't get it. Some of you seem to be arguing that shyte services are somehow doing damage when the fact of the matter is that they, like all shyte things in the market, eventually serve to highlight the qualitatively better options, thereby making the qualitatively better option providers more money over the medium- and long-term.