Serach Arbitrage [TEST] [SCALING] [OPTIMISATION] = Experience Exchange

BlindRhino said:

How did you get into tonic?

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avtrttt said:

Hi everyone,

I've started this thread to share my experience, as our niche is WHITE, but it's been tricky to find information and experience, as if it's hidden behind a locked door...

So I thought I'd tell you a bit about myself and how we test offers, as well as the main points we use in our work.

We've got a team of 10 people.
All of our team members have at least two years of experience in search arbitration. Before that, we all worked in different G/B HAT niches five years min.

P.S. Our ts is Facebook

Before we become as a one team we used to work with rsoc and afd feeds.
Then I have beed trying to get explore ads , tonic, ads.com , cross roads (domain active),
It's pretty tough to get EXPLORE ADS RSOC feeds these days, as they don't accept new partners...... so we are still waiting for reply

... so we decided to make the best of what we had and hit a snag. As you probably know, TONIC offers low payouts to new partners and expects you to make lose a lot of money
Even though we have a lot of experience, we still have to fight every day and run hundreds of campaigns a week. We're looking for high payout offers and keywords to work with...

The idea behind this thread is to share experiences and also to understand different opinions and approaches.

So I'd like you to share your thoughts openly.

Offers:
1. SPY-services + offers that We've worked in different geos , mostly it's Europe.
I'm wondering if any of you have experience working in Asia, Africa or Latin America? DM ME
Tests:
We test around 10 creatives at one time, with a budget of $30-50 for one campaign.
Scaling:
1. Once you've reached 50 conversions with positive ROI, you can start increasing your budget up to 30% each day/2 days/3days




I want to say to those who are just starting their adventure and will start working with feed providers just like we did - you will have a few months of moral depression because it will not be easy to get into +(in profit) with a normal volume (at least 30k spread per month), and you will be successful if you analyse the numbers correctly, count all the expenses, develop the team gradually and test carefully.
I can say for sure that training, normal sleep and proper nutrition will help you at this time. Since we are all computer nerds, don't forget about training because it will help you to keep yourself in good shape in the first place.

Longread but I write what I think.

There is no easy money. Work is the key to success.

This is all about my experience.

Maybe you will get bigger results faster and I just wish and want you to do this !!!!

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iDany said:

dude stay away from Tonic, another guy said it above as well...
they cut too much and they tell you keep spending until it works... they expect you to lose money...that's not how it works, usually if it works, it should even be profitable with 20$ tests as well, but they keep trying to convince you you have to spend more, so I spent 200$ per day for 10days, and I lost a lot of money, and guess what their answer was? keep doing that it will work...and my high performing campaign died of exhaustion.... it's not how business works...
seems like their account managers get paid by convincing people to spend more...

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traffic buying said:

This is normal scenario, of course AM will get some paid if people spending more. But it really hard to get profit, maybe 1 of 50 verticals can be profitable for most of feed providers.
Another thing, I heard that Google are inspecting AFS/AFD currently and clawback some revenue, anybody know this?

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Leoberch said:

Hi, I have experience working with all of Tier 1, and currently, I'm running traffic in Africa. Let's chat.

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avtrttt said:

Hi everyone,

I've started this thread to share my experience, as our niche is WHITE, but it's been tricky to find information and experience, as if it's hidden behind a locked door...

So I thought I'd tell you a bit about myself and how we test offers, as well as the main points we use in our work.

We've got a team of 10 people.
All of our team members have at least two years of experience in search arbitration. Before that, we all worked in different G/B HAT niches five years min.

P.S. Our ts is Facebook

Before we become as a one team we used to work with rsoc and afd feeds.
Then I have beed trying to get explore ads , tonic, ads.com , cross roads (domain active),
It's pretty tough to get EXPLORE ADS RSOC feeds these days, as they don't accept new partners...... so we are still waiting for reply

... so we decided to make the best of what we had and hit a snag. As you probably know, TONIC offers low payouts to new partners and expects you to make lose a lot of money
Even though we have a lot of experience, we still have to fight every day and run hundreds of campaigns a week. We're looking for high payout offers and keywords to work with...

The idea behind this thread is to share experiences and also to understand different opinions and approaches.

So I'd like you to share your thoughts openly.

Offers:
1. SPY-services + offers that We've worked in different geos , mostly it's Europe.
I'm wondering if any of you have experience working in Asia, Africa or Latin America? DM ME
Tests:
We test around 10 creatives at one time, with a budget of $30-50 for one campaign.
Scaling:
1. Once you've reached 50 conversions with positive ROI, you can start increasing your budget up to 30% each day/2 days/3days




I want to say to those who are just starting their adventure and will start working with feed providers just like we did - you will have a few months of moral depression because it will not be easy to get into +(in profit) with a normal volume (at least 30k spread per month), and you will be successful if you analyse the numbers correctly, count all the expenses, develop the team gradually and test carefully.
I can say for sure that training, normal sleep and proper nutrition will help you at this time. Since we are all computer nerds, don't forget about training because it will help you to keep yourself in good shape in the first place.

Longread but I write what I think.

There is no easy money. Work is the key to success.

This is all about my experience.

Maybe you will get bigger results faster and I just wish and want you to do this !!!!

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avtrttt said:

If you have experience in any ads running - then it wouldn't be a big problem to find a team.
Just try to search through LinkedIn , change your details in profile that you are working is search arb and just wait till someone will write you. In few days you will have a lot of job offers ))

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