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SeoCheat - Brandon - Scammed $120.

Discussion in 'The Shit List' started by GloCk99, Jun 20, 2012.

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  1. GloCk99

    GloCk99 Regular Member

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    This is primarily to warn others about this scammer and hopefully open some eyes in case it ever happens to you. You will see from the records that this is a near text book reaction of a scammer. Emotional play, deceipt and delay. Read on and I hope this serves as a warning to others. Mods I apologise for wasting your time on this, I should have known better. I am not interested in people chiming in on how I should have known better, I was wrong, I hold my hands up to that. These are the facts so it doesn't happen to others. The money is not the issue here.


    Profile: http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/members/269616-seocheat.html

    Original Thread: Deleted by Mod. I have spoken to Bleemz who is aware I would be posting this thread.

    Facts: Brandon (SeoCheat) - Wellington Florida

    1) On Wednesday June the 13th SeoCheat posted a thread asking for a loan of $100 via Western Union in return for payment of $140 and 10 500 word unique articles which would be returned in 6 days. He stated he needed the money for his kids. I did some investigation and it appeared from his posts he was genuine. I offered to help and told him I didn't want a monetary value return, but instead he could write me 10 articles. He agreed to the terms. I asked that he supplied me with a photo of him holding a piece of paper with his username and the date.

    2) On Thursday June the 14th at 5am I received and email from Brandon requesting the money be sent to a certain address. I reminded him he had not supplied the photo. This went on for about 8 hrs with one excuse after the other. He didn't have the camera,lost camera, no cable etc .. I stood my ground. He supplied the photo. Before I made the payment we agreed he would supply 2 articles per day and on the 6th day would return the payment.

    3) Friday 15th June I emailed Brandon and asked "Just wanted to touch base and check you did the pick ok and the articles are still scheduled for today?" His reply "yes, I picked up the Western Union with no issues and your articles are still scheduled for today :) Thanks again!"

    4) Saturday 16th June. I had received nothing from Bandon. I started to investigate (This is something I should have done initially) turns out he's pulled the exact scam before. http://seoblackhatz.com/the-shit-li...promotions-com-scam-failure-to-pay-back-loan/ . After instructing an investigation into him it turns out he is one dodgy character. I told him I want my payment back within 24hrs. He responded by delivering the first article with this message "Let me know how you like the first article. You have three more coming your way today."

    5) Sunday 17[SUP]th[/SUP] June no further articles received. I warned him I would release all information I have on him to everyone he knows and publicly. He responded by saying today is fathers day and he's busy.

    6) Monday 18[SUP]th[/SUP] June. After again warning him I received one more article. At this point I gave him a deadline of Wednesday the 20[SUP]th[/SUP] June 10am (BST) to deliver the articles and repay the amount. No exceptions.

    7) Wednesday 20[SUP]th[/SUP] June at 10am. Nothing received. I replied he was nothing but a scammer and I would be releasing the info. He replied immediately saying deadline was at the end of the day not now. He then asked me if he could pay me in paypal which I agreed to. He then asked me what the paypal fees were and then finally he sent a few more emails begging for another week on the payment. He said "if I deliver all 8 articles today" will you give me another week.

    It was obvious at this point he was delaying yet again, I repeatedly told him he has done nothing but lie to me and deceive me and I would not be giving him the benefit of doubt again. He has not made a payment nor delivered articles. In fact I have not heard from him.

    I will stick to my promise and slowly release all the information on him publicly and to everyone he knows. Let this be a lesson to scammers sometimes it is not about the money. In this case Brandon happened to pick on someone who had the right contacts to sort this mess out, and that's exactly what I plan on doing.

    I could walk away and save the time and the energy, but I won't purely because he'll do it again and again.


    SKYPE LOGS: http://pastebin.com/xczWNE0K

    EMAILS : I will happily supply these to a mod if needed.


    From the above it may appear I was more interested in the articles, this is not the case. I believe in keeping your word and seeing through the deal, as soon as he did not do this I knew this would go wrong, I had agreed to give him 6 days to pay me back and could not budge on this, i could hassle him for what he hadn't delivered. I could have had the articles done by my team without any of this grief.

    Of all the years I've been on BHW I've not been scammed this is hands down one of the best communities out there, emotion got the better of me on this one and my goggles went misty. Let this serve as a warning to others. Stay safe guys.
     
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  3. SeoCheat

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    Hello Glock99 and BleemZ, I was notified of this thread being posted and am responding to it. I'm a fair and honest person with nothing to hide nor anything to lie about. Yes, Glock99 in my opinion is a good person who helped me in a time of need and can understand his frustration under the circumstances that have arisen. This isn't a matter of being scammed nor lied to, it's a matter of me simply waiting to get the funds to pay him back for the money he lent me which isn't long. My correspondace with him has taken place daily and I assured he would receive the funds he sent me. If I said I wasn't going to pay you back or if you haven't heard from me in days, then I could better understand your position in making this post. It's not unusual for circumstances to change that are often times out of our control and am making every effort to reimburse you which I assure will happen. In regards to the articles, as of now, I've sent you 2 of the 10, the remainder will be completed and sent to you tomorrow. Again, I asked for a loan in the first place because things were tight, I'm still waiting to get paid which will be soon and paying you back is the first thing on my list. I hope you can understand the circumstances and know that you're not being scammed or lied to.

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    Also, regarding the previous loan that was taken from somebody else, they were paid back and I also paid them back about double what they lent me and met all accepted agreements we had in the end which I can prove to show that I'm being honest and truthful about my claims.

    Regards.
     
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    You choose to ignore the fact that you repeatedly lied to me which gave you no grounds for negotiation. If you had been honest with me and and delivered when you said you would then this situation would not be happening. You also chose to stop responding to me when you realised I would not budge on the deadline and did not even attempt to deliver anything, strange how you're instantly available when this thread appears.

    You have also just sent me an email where your only concern is having this thread removed. I quote "Once you receive payment including the articles, will you remove the thread? I know you have the capability and I planned on paying you back anyways but wanted to make sure that you'll remove it.when I pay you back"

    State publicly here when you will pay back the amount and deliver your end of the agreement.
     
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    SeoCheat BANNED BANNED

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    Hello Glock99, yes I just sent you an email. Here is what I can do for you in 5 days:

    Provide you with 10 articles (On top of the two already sent)
    Send you a $150 payment through PayPal
     
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    I don't want anything extra out of this. That was never my intention. You have 5 days to deliver what you originally agreed on.
     
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    This is just an update on the thread.

    Brandon aka SeoCheat is a scammer.

    As you can see from the replies above he agreed to pay me within 6 days. He did not do this. He then told me he is guaranteed a payment on the 3rd of July as part of a SSI cheque.

    These are his exact words:

    "I get 1 guaranteed check every month which I get on the third of every month, that's the only guaranteed time that I can pay you, if I can before hand I will."


    Yesterday was the 3rd and guess what I have had no payment. He is now giving me excuses about checks clearing even though in the above extract from an email you can see he clearly says he will have money on the 3rd. All I have had from this guy is one excuse after the other and all of them sob stories.

    I will do my part now as I warned him.

    Mods I leave this in your hands.
     
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    This turns pretty bad. Is he from someplace where they got payment issues or because I know some 3rd world countries are having the same problems too.
     
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    "SeoCheat" Seo- cheat what a coincidence :bugsbunny
     
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    always hate it when a person says they will pay back
    by a certain date. then when u check there profile you see this
    Activity 06-26-2012 10:00 PM
     
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    did the op got his money back ?? and what is the use of suspending this sammers they might have another username in here ,I hate it like this
     
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    Then leave. The Mods job is not to make sure you get your money back, it's your job to make sure you don't get scammed.

    They do an incredible job cleaning up this board, did you want them to come and clean your room as well?
     
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    I never meant hurt any one feeling nor want to have a fight , I don't want modes to clean my garbage, I was just curious to whether you got the money or not
    and I sincerely apologize if i have hurt you some way or other.
     
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    I'm updating this thread to say that after intense pressure on the OP and the threat to release more information publicly he eventually paid. I was paid in 5 small installments. Getting the money back was no easy task and the only reason I am updating this thread is so anybody who reads this thread in search engines can see the outcome.
     
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    If I remember right, wasn't it Webs2be who claimed a do follow link was a link that you can click?
     
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    Missed the thread last night before it got deleted (seen the cached version though good detective work OP), but a fingers up and big fat I TOLD YOU SO to anyone and everyone that ever slated me when I used to get at him, so obvious ffs - maybe some of you sheep will wake up and smell the coffee now, theres plenty more like him here too.....
     
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