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SEO [YOU DO BACKLINKING (SB or other)] I write content

Discussion in 'Joint Ventures' started by Bamboo1, Mar 18, 2012.

  1. Bamboo1

    Bamboo1 Junior Member

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    Hi!
    I've had a JV of similar nature with two of the members here. Am still waiting for user http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/members/185348-nick5014.html to respond on our JV, and send me the Scrapebox Blast reports, but he has a daytime job and I want someone who will be more frequent and more prompt.

    I prefer someone who already has his sites or blogs in plan, and needs me to write articles for them, and since I already have my sites and blogs, with written content I will ask of them to build links for my blogs and sites. If you have srapebox or other automated linkbuilding software (or perhaps are good at building links manually) and are willing to work with me on daily (or weekly basis), if you need quality *coypscape passed* original content and articles written for your sites, then this is a JV for you! :)

    Everything else, we can work out along the way. :)

    Just write here or drop me a pm, cheers!
     
  2. MikeBuyco

    MikeBuyco Regular Member

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    Can you PM me samples of the articles you written?
     
  3. nikao

    nikao Power Member

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    will pm you
     
  4. Razvan

    Razvan Power Member

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    hey man , heres a deal i can do for you
    I'll build links for whatever keywords you want for you sites and you write some articles for me on keywords ill provide you .

    I have senuke x , amr , scrapebox you name it, ill provide you with reports on my work.

    PM me if your interested
     
  5. BlueTurtle

    BlueTurtle BANNED BANNED

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    The problem with this kind of JV is no one who's actually made money with SEO would do this.

    The people who have made money, (ie, the people you want), will just hire their own writers and keep 100% of the profit to themselves.

    The ones who will go for this will be people who are probably too lazy to write their own content and have never made money with SEO so really don't know what they're doing, which means you'll write content, they'll create a few pointless links and the sites won't go anywhere.

    My advice to you is to learn SEO yourself, it's not that hard if you really study the forum. When I say study that means you can't just read, since I'd say 75% of the SEO advice is garbage, another 15% is ok and the remaining 10% is great. If you're smart you'll be able to work out fairly quickly what works and what doesn't.
     
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  6. gergo2007

    gergo2007 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Hi. I can make you a few senuke links. PM me
     
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    acotut Elite Member

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    I don't know if you realise but writing the content for a website,it's usually the cheapest part.The SEO is where most of the money goes.
     
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    cooldude2020 Junior Member

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    Can you write reviews for amazon products?
     
  9. nikao

    nikao Power Member

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    this is just plain ignorant... exchanging services IS keeping 100% of the profit to yourself, it's just hiring a service without paying money for it.

    In your opinion we should do the following?
    Person A is SEO expert, Person B is a writer.
    Both are making sites
    Person A hires Person B for some article writing... pays 100$
    Person B hires Person A for some SEO... pays 100$
    Paypal takes a percentage (or fiverr or whatever other channel there is in between)...

    That's stupid..
     
  10. BlueTurtle

    BlueTurtle BANNED BANNED

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    Your logic is seriously faulty.

    You're assuming that 1 service is exactly equal to the other. Writing articles is in no way equal to being able to rank a web site. You could find 1000's of people at your local university who can write articles, but you'd be lucky to find a dozen who can rank web sites.

    How exactly are you keeping 100% of the profit to yourself? If I do a JV with someone and they write articles then I get 50% of the profit.

    My point is that anyone who has experience ranking web sites will already have money. If you don't have money then you've probably never ranked a site, so anyone who can actually rank a site will just spend $7-$10 per 500 word article, which will get them a good quality article.

    Why give up half your business for someone writing articles? Writing articles is just a tiny part of an online business. Have you ever heard of successful companies giving up half their business to staff? No. They pay them peanuts compared to what they make, that's how business is done.

    Anyone who's going to come forward for this JV will have never done any real SEO before. Why would you even consider giving up 50% for some articles? That's nuts.

    Even a small site that only makes $1k/month. That's $12k/year. You can either give up $6k for it, or you can spend $300 and have 30 high quality 500 word articles done.

    Hard choice.

     
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  11. Bamboo1

    Bamboo1 Junior Member

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    Well, I beg to differ. Mainly because I don't have time to do all of the work for my site, and someone with good link-building skills will just jump in and fill that gap.
    I also don0t have enough money to buy a linkbuilding service myself. Been doing other things so for, pausing my IM projects, and goind in circles.

    This is AN EXCHANGE OF SERVICES because both of my partner for this project and I will be doing separate sites. : ) Each will be doing their own. We will just focus on things we do best. Link-building is not that hard either. Neither is writing articles.
    (Of course... there ARE tricks of the trade and vital details to each.) My articles do have the optimum keyword density, and are SEO friendly. The only thing we need to come up with is the number of words for the number of backlinks.

    I'll reply to pm's, send pm's tho those who said they're interested, and most likely choose just one person.
     
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  12. Bamboo1

    Bamboo1 Junior Member

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    My thougths exactly. Posted before I read your post. : )
     
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  13. scorpion896

    scorpion896 Senior Member

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    What he said ^^^^.

    Content is nothing to worry about can be received very easily
     
  14. BlueTurtle

    BlueTurtle BANNED BANNED

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    Bit contradictory considering your post.

    Typical budgets for SEO are in the $1000's. Easily upwards of $10k.


    There is no "optimum keyword density", nor are there any "tricks of the trade". I was an article writer myself and I charged $5 to $10 per 100 words, so I know what I'm talking about.

    The most important thing with creating an article for SEO is writing it with LSI in mind, not keyword density. Any natural article will contain a sufficient keyword density. What you need to focus on is adding in related keywords naturally without constraining the flow of the article.

    I'm actually trying to give you advice for your own benefit here. If you want to make money with your own business you're going down the wrong path here. You'll only get other noobs with a copy of scrapebox etc contacting you. You'll see that soon enough if you choose to ignore the benefit of my 5+ years in the industry.

    I'm advising you to just learn SEO yourself. You don't actually need to spend money buying all these link packages. All you need is a copy of zennoposter or ubot studio, and a few shared proxies and you'll be able to do some real damage.

    If you want to succeed and make money then take my advice and use your writing ability as a bonus and not your sole marketable skill, then start building your own SEO empire.
     
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  15. Bamboo1

    Bamboo1 Junior Member

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    BlueTurtle, you have pm :)

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    So far I've been only doing manual blog commenting, a bit of BD, and SEnukeX (trail version) when it comes to building links. I'm not sure what type of backlinks I should go for?
    What are the differences, and what's best to choose, since I got PM's and everyone has, from only one to many seo softwares available. I haven't even heard of some :D ....
     
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  16. BlueTurtle

    BlueTurtle BANNED BANNED

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    I've replied to your pm with some advice.

     
  17. Razvan

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    your wrong dude,
    its a win - win situation for both parts
    Instead of paying like 5 bucks per article on fivver i would be more than welcome to create a linkwheel on senuke x and blast it with amr and scrapebox - doing simple seo for the guy for a few articles , and im sure it will improve his ranks pretty good actually .

    So for the op , the offer from me is still available is you want to trade services send me a pm
     
  18. BlueTurtle

    BlueTurtle BANNED BANNED

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    An senuke/amr/scrapebox blast won't do anything except cause the site to dance around or drop off.

    If you can rank sites doing this then you wouldn't bat an eyelid at a few $5 articles. I even compared $10 articles to the ranking of sites, $5 is just a drop in the ocean compared with the experience/skill and/or money required to rank sites.

    The fact you say "linkwheel" tells me you don't really know much about SEO and probably have a few sites that you're struggling to rank.

    The OP isn't looking for just a 'blast', he's looking for people who can rank him, which is the key difference. Thousands of people have access to senuke, and 10's of thousands scrapebox. Being able to do some 'blast' and create a 'linkwheel' means absolutely nothing in the real world.

    You don't rank sites by blasting your money site with a bunch of scrapebox links, articles from AMR and a few web 2.0's with badly spun content from senuke. If that's all it took half the forum would be living the good life.

    SEO isn't hard, but it's certainly a lot more involved than what you just described.

    If you want to improve your own SEO then start here:

    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo/296636-my-search-engine-optimization-blueprint-senuke-amr-bmd-xrumer-scrapebox.html
     
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  19. spenzo

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    OP i have all top Software like.. SB,NHSEO,Senuke,AMR etc...drop me Pm if you interested... :)
     
  20. Bamboo1

    Bamboo1 Junior Member

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    Proposal from a member:

    Is this a fair deal for both parties? =)

    And BlueTurtle, I appreaciate your posts. I'm still, like all of us anyway, learning.