SEO Silo Structure - Still Effective?

WebDev · Aug 6, 2013

metra said:
So, my question is, isn't any homepage that displays recent articles from all your categories already ruining this structure? Or does it not matter since it's the homepage...

Even if my menus and other links are cleaned up perfectly and link only to the top of all my silo categories, would having a homepage like I mentioned make it all for nothing?
Worth creating a static homepage over this? Should I be worried?

Your blog and its posts need to be in a directory of your site's hosting account - i.e. sharing the same URL as the silo site - but separate from it - e.g. site.com/site-blog/

The actual silo site needs to be "static"

You can "rem out" the parts of the wordpress theme that are breaking the siloing with // using the wordpress theme editing function

travanx · Sep 30, 2013

WebDev said:
Your blog and its posts need to be in a directory of your site's hosting account - i.e. sharing the same URL as the silo site - but separate from it - e.g. site.com/site-blog/

The actual silo site needs to be "static"

You can "rem out" the parts of the wordpress theme that are breaking the siloing with // using the wordpress theme editing function

Can you explain this more. I am starting to redo my website.

The top menu has 5 items that I must keep no matter what, so I know this won't be as effective.

But I rewrote my homepage so its more easy to read and links to Services and Cities, and removed way too many links of each and placed those in their new respective page. So the homepage has links to the 5 menu items (one of which is blog, we get a lot of people calling me because I keep the blog up to date), services, cities, and the footer has a link to our homepage with branding anchor text as well as our social media icons.

I have the blog setup, when clicking the blog link its goes to website.com/category/blog From there I set the blog posts up to show 1 blog per page. The category is BLOG. I am updating each blog post to only have 1 link to either Services or Cities based on the keyword I want for each post.

What benefit is there to having 2 wordpress sites, homepage as static and the other as the dynamic blog part? My permalink is website.com/post-title

KHer0 · Sep 30, 2013

webdeep said:
So how you doing this ?? are you using custom cms ??

What you think about Clickbump engine and XFactored 2.0 theme... I think is good for siloing your website.

Kris.

I use Html5 & CSS3

travanx said:
Can you explain this more. I am starting to redo my website.

travanx said:
The top menu has 5 items that I must keep no matter what, so I know this won't be as effective.

But I rewrote my homepage so its more easy to read and links to Services and Cities, and removed way too many links of each and placed those in their new respective page. So the homepage has links to the 5 menu items (one of which is blog, we get a lot of people calling me because I keep the blog up to date), services, cities, and the footer has a link to our homepage with branding anchor text as well as our social media icons.

I have the blog setup, when clicking the blog link its goes to website.com/category/blog From there I set the blog posts up to show 1 blog per page. The category is BLOG. I am updating each blog post to only have 1 link to either Services or Cities based on the keyword I want for each post.

What benefit is there to having 2 wordpress sites, homepage as static and the other as the dynamic blog part? My permalink is website.com/post-title

All these Questions were answered here
http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/member-downloads/583471-get-wordpress-silo-sites-using-free-plugins-5.html

A couple of weeks ago I'd agree - but now there are at least 2 ways to do it with wordpress

1/ pages
2/ posts

A demo site I put up using pages:
wpsilo.neq3.com

How come I haven't seen this example before.. ! Looks like you have a product coming on the way WebDev

niche1 · Sep 30, 2013

Interesting discussion. Most people probably don't think of the problem that a site can have links that are too keyword heavy. They end up too long and look too spammy.

Nice to see everyone patiently helping to answer the OP's questions.

WebDev · Oct 5, 2013

KHer0 said:
How come I haven't seen this example before.. ! Looks like you have a product coming on the way WebDev

You must be psychic!

In the last few days I teamed up with a PHP programmer/site builder

He's already got working prototypes of 2 silo site builders - one using a stand-alone server based script, and the other a wordpress plugin

He's still working on the user interfaces

What isn't decided yet is whether they will be released to the public, or we use the softwares ourselves, and offer affordable silo building services through the forums - could vary from bare-bones sites with the pages built, but site owner adds their own content, to full service where we install a completed site

virtualpurity · Oct 5, 2013

WebDev said:
You must be psychic!

In the last few days I teamed up with a PHP programmer/site builder

He's already got working prototypes of 2 silo site builders - one using a stand-alone server based script, and the other a wordpress plugin

He's still working on the user interfaces

What isn't decided yet is whether they will be released to the public, or we use the softwares ourselves, and offer affordable silo building services through the forums - could vary from bare-bones sites with the pages built, but site owner adds their own content, to full service where we install a completed site

looking forward to this service if you can make it work. WP is clearly not meant for silo site building, and i think that to achieve a 100% working silo site there is a lot of WP hacking involved so it would be a pain for wp updates..

WebDev · Oct 6, 2013

virtualpurity said:
looking forward to this service if you can make it work. WP is clearly not meant for silo site building, and i think that to achieve a 100% working silo site there is a lot of WP hacking involved so it would be a pain for wp updates..

You're right about wordpress not being a suitable platform - a couple of months ago I was telling people silo sites couldn't be built correctly with it at all

There are currently 3 different ways to build silo sites with wordpress:

1/ adding logic code to navigation widgets - but it's not really "repeatable", unless you intend to build every site with exactly the same number of silos, and an exact number of articles per silo

2/ simple silo theme - but it's a very basic looking theme, and not responsive/fluid - so no good for smartphones

3/ plugin - but no good ones released to the public yet - some in development, and some kept for private use

The one I'm involved with will be HTML5/CSS3 and responsive/fluid for smartphones - but I do not have a say in releasing it to the public - only in using it for in-house site-building purposes - but its use will drastically reduce the cost of providing an export file to the site owner

We also have a PHP server script to build HTML silo sites - but that is for in-house use - but eventually, we may put it on a membership site server for DIY silo site building - the public won't get their hands on the script - just the sites they make with it

WebDev · Oct 6, 2013

virtualpurity said:
looking forward to this service if you can make it work. WP is clearly not meant for silo site building, and i think that to achieve a 100% working silo site there is a lot of WP hacking involved so it would be a pain for wp updates..

I've come up with a concept I think will work

A wordpress plugin/modded theme package

So, you would choose a pretty HTML5/CSS3 responsive theme you like the look of, from our selection - and you would purchase a plugin/theme combo

Silo busting features of wordpress will have been removed from the theme by us - so the plugin can do its thing without your own themes screwing things up

I think the plugin programmer is warming to the idea - gonna keep working on him!

WebDev · Oct 6, 2013

travanx said:
What benefit is there to having 2 wordpress sites, homepage as static and the other as the dynamic blog part?

This dates back to 2008, but I think it answers your question perfectly:
foliovision.com/2008/04/sbi-versus-wordpress

So, you get the benefit of a static site, and the benefit of a blog

WebDev · Oct 8, 2013

virtualpurity said:
looking forward to this service if you can make it work. WP is clearly not meant for silo site building, and i think that to achieve a 100% working silo site there is a lot of WP hacking involved so it would be a pain for wp updates..

There's been a development on the other thread:
http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...-wordpress-silo-sites-using-free-plugins.html

Our first wordpress silo plugin/theme package will be released shortly

Further packages will be released later

By combining a plugin with a modded theme, we have overcome all the problems of perfectly siloing a wordpress site - with no extra work on the part of the site owner - you just create your categories, and make your posts in the normal way - but you get a silo'd site, instead of a leaky boat

royserpa · Feb 5, 2014

WebDev said:
You're right about wordpress not being a suitable platform - a couple of months ago I was telling people silo sites couldn't be built correctly with it at all

There are currently 3 different ways to build silo sites with wordpress:

1/ adding logic code to navigation widgets - but it's not really "repeatable", unless you intend to build every site with exactly the same number of silos, and an exact number of articles per silo

2/ simple silo theme - but it's a very basic looking theme, and not responsive/fluid - so no good for smartphones

3/ plugin - but no good ones released to the public yet - some in development, and some kept for private use

The one I'm involved with will be HTML5/CSS3 and responsive/fluid for smartphones - but I do not have a say in releasing it to the public - only in using it for in-house site-building purposes - but its use will drastically reduce the cost of providing an export file to the site owner

We also have a PHP server script to build HTML silo sites - but that is for in-house use - but eventually, we may put it on a membership site server for DIY silo site building - the public won't get their hands on the script - just the sites they make with it

Interesting, but nowadays ive seen people doing silo sites with wp. Perhaps im missing sth?

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