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Seo Noob!

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Above and Below, Mar 5, 2012.

  1. Above and Below

    Above and Below Newbie

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    Basically after 9 months unemployment times have got very tough so i decided to take my hand to something new and started my own website which ive just published

    so im very new to seo and would like it if some of you guys could share your wisdom and confirm a few things for me and answer some questions for me.

    Basically im testing out The No Hands Seo program and as i understand it

    Whois - just get other sites to post a report on my website an rank it themselves?

    Blog comments - just posts a random comment on blogs with my back link?

    trashbacks - are the same as blog comments but instead of random text it just says check out my site?

    is this correct or am i wrong,

    also im presumming this doesnt help my website seo until these sites get crawled by search engines correct?

    Also does anybody know of a forum bot which will automatically create accounts in forums and post on them for me as i believe this will also help my seo, i would like one which offers a trial so i can test it before i buy as i carnt afford to waste any cash without me seeing for myself it works


    thanks in advance guyss
     
  2. Rext_

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    Spamming your new site with blog comments and what not usually isn't a good idea.
    What you want to look into are link wheels or link pyramids.
    Or if you want to start a bit smaller look into web2.0's and just get a few of those.

    And I know this will probably sound repetitive but everything you need is on this forum.
    Search and read and read then implement.

    As for forum profiles / posts. Xrumer is the best you can get right now but it's costly and I don't think they offer a trial but a xx days money back guarantee. I'm not 100% sure about that though.

    You don't want to buy any software right now anyway. Start automating when you exactly know what you're doing.
    There's a lot of powerful software out there that can rank you like a champ but can also sandbox you if not used correctly.
     
  3. jb1978

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    Rext is correct. From what you have said, you do not seem to know much about ranking and much less about seo. What i can suggest is to go through the forum again and absorb as much info as you can. Things like keyword research, writing quality content, on page / off page optimization and so on. Once you are ready, start on building links the hard way manaually. There is nothing better than doing it manually at first. Once you get the hang of things, you can start using tools to speed things up.

    While No Hands SEO is a good tool, you really need to use it wisely. It may be good for ranking low competition keywords but if you are thinking long term, it will be better to use it on your second tier links.

    I emphatize with your situation and it's good that you have start taking action to remedy your situation. However, remember more haste less speed. You need to firm up your foundation first before proceeding. Otherwise you will be shooting bullets at empty targets.
     
  4. Nekojin

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    The two above member's make excellent points. With a brand new site you should definitely make sure that you are starting off with some good quality links to your site. My experience has shown that having a great base of links and then following it up with links that may be a bit more "risky" after a month or two can yield great results, even if it causes it to take a bit more time.

    Automated forum links can be a bit dangerous to post to your money site and are normally best pointed to sites in a link wheel that are pointed back to your main site. If I remember correctly, SENuke X comes with a free trial for 7 days so that you can not only create a nice link wheel for yourself, but then hit sites in your link wheel with forum links without risking the integrity of your main site.
     
  5. Above and Below

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    cheers for the advice guys
     
  6. WCO12

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    Instead of messing with blasting forums and comments, you should do this instead:

    1. Make sure you are insulated from your site. Fake whois info or whois protection, dedicated email addresses, etc. You don't want angry emails/phone calls/threats. You'll get some eventually anyway, but best to minimize it. Make sure your site has a good security plugin and an SEO plugin (assuming you're on WordPress, which you probably should be).

    2. Make sure your site has good keywords and good on-site SEO. Nothing you can do as a newbie will get you past a site with crappy keywords and poorly optimized pages. You already have a site, so hopefully there are good keywords for your niche! If you don't know how to do competition/profitability analysis or do on-site SEO there are plenty of threads about it.

    3. Build some social bookmarks to your site. There are threads around here with lists of good BM sites, as well as BSTs that will take care of this for you for relatively cheap. You don't need tons. Even if you get a BST do a few yourself so you can get a feel for what your tools are up to later when you have this automated.

    4. Build some Web 2.0s on high PR Web 2.0 sites. You can find some of those sites http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo/391578-phpbuilts-web-2-0-registration-url.html. Make sure they are sites that give ******** links/aren't SUPER picky (search for phpbuilt's Web 2.0 thread to find out which ones are super picky). You can worry about those kinds of sites later when you know more about what is going on. Add some random blog content once a week for 3-4 weeks before you start adding your own niche-related articles with backlinks to your site. Don't want to do this yourself? Check out some of the BSTs on this forum. Make sure they provide the account info. These sites will be the target of your more spammy blackhat stuff later. After 6 weeks just update these every once in a while (maybe once a month or put up a post to coincide with your new content). They will pay dividends.

    5. Do some article marketing at high PR article directories straight to your home page. Do not buy 2k article blasts from crap directories to your money site. You'll also get a chance to see what format is needed to post to these directories for when you automate this later. These articles will also be good targets for later blasts.

    6. Do some relevant manual high PR blog commenting. Search out niche-related blogs (if "related" is a stretch that's fine) and make an actual useful comment that is likely to get past the moderator. Trouble finding the right blogs? Check out the various threads about scrapebox footprints. All those are is a google query - you can do it all manually. While doing this you'll learn about how SB footprints work, which is awesome because SB is awesome and you will want it. Alternatively, you can go to a place like scrapeboxblasts.com (not affiliated - I think someone here on BHW runs it but I'm not sure) and order a couple hundred of their highest quality SB links, though they won't be niche related.

    7. Get an article related to your niche and spin it. You can use one of the ones you already have for this. Turn that into a PDF and post it on some document sharing sites with links back to your site.

    8. Go to Fiverr and pay 5 bucks to get someone to make a video out of a couple of images and words from your site/text from your article. Put this video up on video sharing sites with links back to your site.

    9. Get the whole list of URLs you have links on and submit them to a crawling/indexing service such as Lindexed, Linklicious, or BacklinksIndexer. You can also just submit them to a ping site but I think most people get better results with dedicated services like those listed above.

    Now you have a good base of relatively high quality links and a large variety of them to boot. When creating the links, be sure to use a few keywords and not just one keyword over and over. Don't just link to your homepage, do some inner page too. Once this is done you can start looking at sending lower quality links to these ones you just built to power them up.

    I'm not going to lie, doing this stuff is time consuming and boring as hell. The temptation will always be there to just buy 5k crappy links from Fiverr because it seems like a good deal. It isn't, because you won't learn. You will not do this stuff much - certainly not manually - but you should do it all once or twice to get a good idea of what it takes before you automate it. I jumped right into automation when I started a few months ago and basically wasted three weeks and a good bit of cash on tools and services I don't really need, then ended up doing some of this stuff manually anyway just to learn. At which point my first site ranked. Now I automate all of it, but I had to do my time before I could get value out of my tools and pick the right services. Don't do what I did, do it right the first time.
     
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