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SEO is so hard right now!!!

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by dragonrage01, Nov 1, 2012.

  1. dragonrage01

    dragonrage01 Power Member

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    I'm trying to figure it out but can't rank a domain in the top 10. I've made so much last year through spamming forums and web 2.0s. Now, nothing works. I don't know how to rank without spamming some t1 or t2.
    If I spam, I get penalize. If I don't spam, I don't rank at all. Geeze!!!! I need to do so much testing.

    Not a good year for SEO for me but I'll keep hanging till I figure it out.
     
  2. gz_cp

    gz_cp Regular Member

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    Try senukex and Ultimate Demon or BMD.
     
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  3. dragonrage01

    dragonrage01 Power Member

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    I'm actually using senuke scr to create tier 2. However, they are penalizing my tier 1.
     
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    Yes, it's more difficult than it was before.. I remember the old days when a Xrumer or Scrapebox's blast could rank you #1 within few days. Now you just need to be clever.. I spam , but.. I'm not doing obvious spam :) try and test man..
     
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  5. dragonrage01

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    I'll try creating T4-T5 and link pushing my t1 slowly and see what happens. Then if it works, I'll link t1 to my domain.
     
  6. GiorgioB

    GiorgioB Supreme Member

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    Try focusing more on quality than quantity.
     
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  7. dude91

    dude91 Registered Member

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    I honestly feel tiering links with all that web 2.0 properties will sooner or later lose value. Everyone is building multiple tiers and suggesting others to do the same. Its a trend.

    Similar trends were :

    Blog networks
    Link Wheels
    Profile Backlinks

    If you get what I am trying to say ?
     
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  8. candytwirp

    candytwirp Newbie

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    I agree,but yes i guess the best thing to do is try and test
     
  9. GiorgioB

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    Agree with you there. @ OP.. you say when you spam you get punished, but when you don't spam you don't rank. Try building just 20-30 very high quality links rather than keep blasting at your crappy (sorry ! :S) spam blog comments over and over again. balance between extreme spam and purely manual work.
     
  10. maxxwilliams

    maxxwilliams Junior Member

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    yeah, I am having trouble also. I am actually losing patience with SEO. It is so irritating...

    Anyone doing something with private blog networks? I feel like that is the only way to get good quality links from now on.
     
  11. dragonrage01

    dragonrage01 Power Member

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    That is what I do actually. I first create 15 Blogs with 3 pages. I create 70 pr 5-7 contextual backlinks, then 30 pr 2-5. I create 40 high pr bookmarks manually. They are all link to the money site. I index them and nothing. I wait for 2 weeks and nothing. I blast all my backlinks with related keywords using senuke xcr then my site ranks and manages to get to page 2 for 1 WEEK then it is gone. I just wasted 1 week of work with high quality content.

    I need to do more testing but I think I'll get this hopefully.

    I'm pretty sure most of the blog networks are gone. Google deindexed them.
     
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  12. GiorgioB

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    Hmm.. if you on page SEO is spotless, then I don't really know what to add.these 70 pr 5-7 contextual backlinks, you wouldn't point them directly at your money site would you? I'm just wondering if the link juice isn't lost somewhere along these 15 newly created blogs.. just throwing that out there..
     
  13. dragonrage01

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    They are pointed to my site. They are all manual.
    At first I use 1 anchor which is main keyword. I then use naked anchor plus keyword anchor. Same effect which nothing. If I spam or don't spam, I still get nothing. I mean if I spam, it ranks then it is gone. If I don't spam, it doesn't rank. I just have to figure out the sweet spot.
    My money site has 10 articles plus about me, terms and etc.
     
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  14. masush300

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    ya google is sucking
    but try try until u pass

    scrapebox blast doesnot work
    but i am focusin in quality then quantity
    i never used aa
    i will use them now but not for keywords ,i wil use name instead for them :)
     
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    Keep it diverse, ie anchors on all types of platforms. Don't build a ton of links. Don't use GA/tools. Don't stop building links even when you lose rank. Add quality original content to your site daily, etc. Don't follow the trend and build a ton of the same links over and over.. Build related backlinks to your niche. Don't build "here", "click" "my site" on all wikis, and "keyword" on blog comments, that's a huge red flag.. So many other things I could go over, but you get the idea. SEO works, I'm doing fine, but I'm also not spamming everything and anything, I'm actually taking it slow and going for quality > quantity. Manual work is important, don't go automation over and over.. ie. you really think it will work when you're using spun content/comments/profiles/etc over and over and over.. No, write original content; now is not the time to be lazy.
     
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    Spamming forum / blog comments was never a sustainable solution. Look for quality content. It's not particularly hard, especially if you have a little cash behind you. Buy some PR1-PR2 domains. Set up legitimate websites with perhaps 2-3 pieces of content on each, and then go from there. Socially interlink all those websites with respective social accounts etc. In about a month, you'll have a pretty bangin' blog network.
     
  17. chris1025

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    SEO is dead,~
     
  18. GiorgioB

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    if that was true than why are you still doing on this forum? i hate people who say that.
     
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    If you working with best link building strategy like blog commenting, web 2.0 they boost your site in google search engine.
     
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    Spam in a good way. Spam like a pro not like a Spammar. You will be succeeded without any doubt.
     
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