SEO Hosting

Adam B. · Jun 25, 2011

Hello,

I was wondering if any of you could help me out;

Is SEO hosting still relevant? If I, for example, want to create 10 websites for a niche, and want to do some interlinking. Is it then advised to do SEO hosting?

What SEO hosting company's are to be trusted? I found some who offer the possibility of multiple domains per IP and some who don't.

Any advice is welcome,

Adam.

acotut · Jun 25, 2011

The SEO Hosting isn't such an important factor,google cares about page relevancy more then hosting.
The examples are countless.

Deleted member 81315 · Jun 25, 2011

I find you're better off spending the extra cost on content for your sites, not worth the price in my opinion.

Adam B. · Jun 25, 2011

acotut said:
The SEO Hosting isn't such an important factor,google cares about page relevancy more then hosting.
The examples are countless.

Ok,

Lets say that I have 10 websites in one niche.

If they are all hosted on the same IP, wouldn't it be bad if I for example, create a link wheel 1->2->3->4->5->6->7->8->9->10 ?

If they are hosted on a different IP, it seems logical the juice aquired is greater? Or am I dreaming?

Another thing is, that I could have another 10 websites in another niche, and host them on the same 10 IP's, and get the same "advantages" of the difference in IP.

I'm quite new to this, but I did *some* research. But still a complete n00b

Spaceman · Jun 25, 2011

Just get as many 4 buck per month hosts you can.
Make sure they are not resellers of the same main host.
Interlink to your hearts content.

Get hosts with cpanel (well I find that really easy and useful) and also that allow at least 50 domains or preferably unlimited "add on" domains. Just dont interlink more than a couple of these from the same host.

Lets say you end up with 10 hosts each with unique IPs

You may then safely link to a domain on one of them from a site from each of the other 9. And also - for good measure - it doesnt harm you to chuck in the odd couple of links from domains on one or two of the other 9.

This is what I do and I havent got any problems.

Hope this helps.

timothykho · Jun 25, 2011

i use hostagtor reseller account and buy unique ip for every domain, it work great. Make sure you have different ip for every domain or google can trace you soon should they in the same/similar niche.

Adam B. · Jun 25, 2011

Spaceman said:
Just get as many 4 buck per month hosts you can.
Make sure they are not resellers of the same main host.
Interlink to your hearts content.

Get hosts with cpanel (well I find that really easy and useful) and also that allow at least 50 domains or preferably unlimited "add on" domains. Just dont interlink more than a couple of these from the same host.

Lets say you end up with 10 hosts each with unique IPs

You may then safely link to a domain on one of them from a site from each of the other 9. And also - for good measure - it doesnt harm you to chuck in the odd couple of links from domains on one or two of the other 9.

This is what I do and I havent got any problems.

Hope this helps.

This is indeed a good way to get 10 different C-IP's, but is not simple in terms of accounting.

How do you handle WhoIs data? Or is this not important? Also; I assume if you worry about this, you do not use Google Webmaster Central/Google Analytics/Google Adsense on one complete account, you have to create a seperate account for each IP?

This all seems quite a lot of work, and I'm still not 100% convinced that all this really matters.

What about you guys? Do you think a Class-C IP's and WhoIs data really matters when dealing with SEO and interlinking? Is there any documentation for this? I heard google said that they do not take IP into account as long as the Virtual Hosting is done correctly?

This is, at least, one big uncertain concept in SEO in my opinion.

pleasenukeme · Jun 25, 2011

I also wonder how much importance whois domain data is of, and how to deal with it (i.e. different companyname but same adress etc.)

Adam B. · Jun 25, 2011

timothykho said:
i use hostagtor reseller account and buy unique ip for every domain, it work great. Make sure you have different ip for every domain or google can trace you soon should they in the same/similar niche.

I asked the provider you use for information about reseller accounts. It seems it is cheaper and more flexible then normal SEO hosting. However, when I confronted the salesman with this truth, he told me real SEO hosting makes life a lot easier, and I would be having to do "all of the leg work" when I did it as a reseller. I don't mind doing "leg work" at least as it remains technically possible, but he wasn't quite clear as to what was this "leg work" when I confronted him with this.

Do you have any idea? I don't see a difference from my perspective.

Chrisss · Jun 26, 2011

Adam B. said:
Hello,

I was wondering if any of you could help me out;

Is SEO hosting still relevant? If I, for example, want to create 10 websites for a niche, and want to do some interlinking. Is it then advised to do SEO hosting?

You don't want to use a SEO hosting. Even though you get different ip's then will you most likely still be on the same c-class.

Get 10 different hosting accounts and take it from there. Just dont make the mistake and put a g account on them!

ClaroAds · Jun 26, 2011

It all depends on your sites quality and quantity: if you are planing to make 100 micro niche websites, same IP hosting will definitely be a bad idea, as they could easily put penalty on all your websites, however, if you will be hosting <10 good quality websites (readable content, which is not overloaded with affiliate links or ads), I wouldn't worry about different c-class ip's

klawre1221 · Jun 26, 2011

Google sees all sites on the same ip as one site so interlinking is pointless. Try http://www.cyberwurx.com You can get additional ips for like 1.00 a month.

Adam B. · Jun 26, 2011

Chrisss said:
You don't want to use a SEO hosting. Even though you get different ip's then will you most likely still be on the same c-class.

Get 10 different hosting accounts and take it from there. Just dont make the mistake and put a g account on them!

What most serious SEO hosts advertise is that they are on different class C IP's, and the pricing is usually still more interesting then 10 different hosts.

I'm going to try it and report back in a month. I will take month by month subscription so I can always move my hosting elsewhere if it doesn't work out!

What the you mean by the last sentance? Should I make a different Google Webmaster and Google Analytics account for each IP or not? Or should I never use those 2?

Adam B. · Jun 26, 2011

falcoarticles said:
It all depends on your sites quality and quantity: if you are planing to make 100 micro niche websites, same IP hosting will definitely be a bad idea, as they could easily put penalty on all your websites, however, if you will be hosting <10 good quality websites (readable content, which is not overloaded with affiliate links or ads), I wouldn't worry about different c-class ip's

Well, I don't want 100 micro niche websites. But I do want to try to get the most out of White/Lightgrey Hat techniques. So if it matters for 100 websites, I'm thinking it matters for 10 aswell. Also, it is a thing that other webmasters/clients constantly check. Meaning they will offer me better deals if all of my websites are on different IP's.

Oh well, everything is better then my current hosts, one loads pages in 10 seconds if I am lucky, the other doesn't support mod_rewrite. Can you believe it?

Chrisss · Jun 26, 2011

Adam B. said:
I'm going to try it and report back in a month. I will take month by month subscription so I can always move my hosting elsewhere if it doesn't work out!

I will look forward to your review. My experience is just that they promise more than they are able to deliver. And in most cases is it more expensive than 10 different cheap hosting solutions. Who do you use?

Adam B. said:
What the you mean by the last sentance? Should I make a different Google Webmaster and Google Analytics account for each IP or not? Or should I never use those 2?

I would not use any G. tool at all. If you are using G. analytics, then would you have to use 10 different account and remember always to change your ip, browser etc. before logging into the next one!

volund · Jun 26, 2011

acotut said:
The SEO Hosting isn't such an important factor,google cares about page relevancy more then hosting.
The examples are countless.

pathart said:
I find you're better off spending the extra cost on content for your sites, not worth the price in my opinion.

It depends on what you are trying to do. If you have a network of 100 sites that you are linking to different money sites then yes IP does matter. I get a lot more benefit from my network than I would if they were all on the same hosting account.

Chrisss said:
You don't want to use a SEO hosting. Even though you get different ip's then will you most likely still be on the same c-class.

Get 10 different hosting accounts and take it from there. Just dont make the mistake and put a g account on them!

Sorry dude but that is what seo hosting is. I get a whm where I can give each and every site a different class C IP address. I believe you are thinking of a regular reseller account, they are not the same thing.

Adam B. said:
What most serious SEO hosts advertise is that they are on different class C IP's, and the pricing is usually still more interesting then 10 different hosts.

I'm going to try it and report back in a month. I will take month by month subscription so I can always move my hosting elsewhere if it doesn't work out!

What the you mean by the last sentance? Should I make a different Google Webmaster and Google Analytics account for each IP or not? Or should I never use those 2?

If you are going to build a network of support sites you should not put any google code on them at all.

In fact you should make sure that they are not tied together in anyway. Separate nameservers, private whois etc.

Adam B. · Jun 26, 2011

Chrisss said:
I will look forward to your review. My experience is just that they promise more than they are able to deliver. And in most cases is it more expensive than 10 different cheap hosting solutions. Who do you use?

I will try webhostingplex, I have heard good and bad things. But one good thing is the price, their only limit is that you have maximum 4 domain's per IP (which is good for 4 niches), in exchange you get a "good" price and "stable hosting". I can only try & see what happens.

Chrisss said:
I would not use any G. tool at all. If you are using G. analytics, then would you have to use 10 different account and remember always to change your ip, browser etc. before logging into the next one!

Thats sad, I really loved their tools, I guess I can't have my cake and eat it too. What alternatives are there for checking traffic in depth (Google Analytics) & looking for what google thinks of your site (Google Webmaster Tools). What about when you use AdSense?

Adam B. · Jun 26, 2011

volund said:
If you are going to build a network of support sites you should not put any google code on them at all.

In fact you should make sure that they are not tied together in anyway. Separate nameservers, private whois etc.

Yes, that makes a lot of sense. I do already have 9 websites on same C IP's, tied together with interlinks and also all on one google webmaster and analytics account. (I know, even if I am still a noob now, I was a extreme noob before.)

Can I still use those same websites if I now delete all the information/accounts, move registrar and hosting/IP's and get private whois & Separate nameservers? Considering the content and age (1 year) of those domains, I would like to try that. Or should I just start over?

Also, is it advised to not use my Gmail account when forwarding website mail & SMTP'ing? Or is this overkill?

volund · Jun 26, 2011

Chrisss said:
I will look forward to your review. My experience is just that they promise more than they are able to deliver. And in most cases is it more expensive than 10 different cheap hosting solutions. Who do you use?....

Stay away from
seo-host
cclassiphosting

Those two companies have some of the worst customer service I have ever encountered. Seo-host cannot keep their servers up and cclass just never answers their support tickets, when I left them I had three open tickets for almost a week. They responded to one of them after I left that was 10 days old. Crazy..

Indianets is not bad but I just did not like their control panel, just seemed a pain with a lot of sites.

Right now I have sites on

webhostingplex
ideastack

Both have good uptimes so far and the support is pretty quick and they actually give you an answer that helps.

Going to test skynethosting for my next batch of sites, get some UK IP's for some more diversity.

volund · Jun 26, 2011

Adam B. said:
Yes, that makes a lot of sense. I do already have 9 websites on same C IP's, tied together with interlinks and also all on one google webmaster and analytics account. (I know, even if I am still a noob now, I was a extreme noob before.)

Can I still use those same websites if I now delete all the information/accounts, move registrar and hosting/IP's and get private whois & Separate nameservers? Considering the content and age (1 year) of those domains, I would like to try that. Or should I just start over?

Also, is it advised to not use my Gmail account when forwarding website mail & SMTP'ing? Or is this overkill?

Well you have them you may as well use them but I doubt that Google will forget, they may though I really have no idea, not something I have ever tried to test. Remember though it is not like it is going to hurt you to have those links, it will just not do as much good.

As for the second, call me paranoid but I never use my gmail account for business at all so no in my opinion staying away from using your gmail account is not overkill. Google collects information, that is what they do and they never ever throw any of it away so I give them as little as I possibly can. Again you can call me paranoid, you would not be the first one.

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